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tere here   Canada. Feb 22 2007 01:13. Posts 949

Where am I supposed to fold this?
Submitted by : tere here

PokerStars Game #8562685014: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/02/22 - 02:18:26 (ET)
Table 'Parysatis II' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: usa_daniel ($120.10 in chips)
Seat 2: scottypoker2 ($29.80 in chips)
Seat 3: murph0511 ($163 in chips)
Seat 4: tere here ($101.10 in chips)
Seat 5: JMC4$000 ($29 in chips)
Seat 6: JP917 ($110.60 in chips)
scottypoker2: posts small blind $0.50
murph0511: posts big blind $1

Holecards
Dealt to tere here AcAd
tere here: raises $3 to $4
JMC4$000: folds
JP917: folds
usa_daniel: calls $4
scottypoker2: folds
murph0511: folds

Flop (Pot : $9.5)

   5d6d9c
tere here: bets $7
usa_daniel: raises $17 to $24
tere here: raises $30 to $54
usa_daniel: raises $62.10 to $116.10 and is all-in
tere here: calls $43.10 and is all-in

Turn (Pot : $241.7)

   5d6d9c3h

River (Pot : $241.7)

   5d6d9c3h8d

Showdown
tere here: shows AcAd (a pair of Aces)
usa_daniel: shows 6s5s (two pair, Sixes and Fives)
usa_daniel collected $200.70 from pot

Summary
Total pot $203.70 | Rake $3
Board  5d6d9c3h8d
Seat 1: usa_daniel (button) showed 6s5s and won ($200.70) with two pair, Sixes and Fives
Seat 2: scottypoker2 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: murph0511 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: tere here showed AcAd and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 5: JMC4$000 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: JP917 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

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Red9   Canada. Feb 22 2007 01:17. Posts 7447

reads?
history?
lots of hands you beat and lots of hands beat you
cant help you with no info on the type of player youre facing
with no info id flat and reevaluate but this line is fine vs most players, youre commiting yourself with the rr so you need to know your player

I will grind you into dust. 

[vital]Myth    United States. Feb 22 2007 01:50. Posts 12159

what does he make the first raise with on the flop? most people at low stakes don't know the value of playing combo draws fast, so something like a pair+FD is not really that common here, unless you KNOW your opponent is a knowledgeable player.

what else do you beat that he raises? if he has like 98/88/77 does he raise? maybe, but again, i don't give most low stakes players credit for being that aggressive.

honestly his first raise on the flop looks really bad for your AA. it's unlikely he has QQ+ because he 3bets those preflop usually. JJ may raise, TT is a bit of a stretch.

unless you know your opponent to be fairly aggro, i think your AA is either call flop, c/f to a reasonable bet on the turn, or just fold straight away to the flop raise.

and if that "feels weak", so what? nobody is observant enough to pick up on it, and besides, nobody knows you fold AA here. for all they know you cbet with KJ and made an easy laydown.

Eh, I can go a few more orbits in life, before taxes blind me out - PoorUser 

[vital]Myth    United States. Feb 22 2007 01:53. Posts 12159

OR if your opponent is really bluffy, or he's been just really out of line recently, then you can take this to war. but honestly a lot of stuff that cold calls preflop has outflopped you here, and anything that has hit the flop but can't beat your AA is unlikely to raise.

Eh, I can go a few more orbits in life, before taxes blind me out - PoorUser 

SakiSaki    Sweden. Feb 22 2007 02:08. Posts 9687

This is quite foldable

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