(6.5 SNG[t]) JJ preflop

Submitted by : Oxy

PokerStars Game #4222854800: Tournament #20991633, Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2006/03/08 - 21:59:08 (ET)
Table '20991633 1' Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: Castanza4 (1470 in chips)
Seat 3: Acehawk74 (1700 in chips)
Seat 4: mrdollarbill (2670 in chips)
Seat 5: Plush Horse (2460 in chips)
Seat 6: o]O2[o (2455 in chips)
Seat 8: Fiddlin JD (615 in chips)
Seat 9: lowroller65 (2130 in chips)
Acehawk74: posts small blind 50
mrdollarbill: posts big blind 100

Holecards
Dealt to o]O2[o
Plush Horse: raises 300 to 400
o]O2[o: calls 400
Fiddlin JD: folds
lowroller65: folds
Castanza4: folds
Acehawk74: folds
mrdollarbill: folds

Flop (Pot : $950)

   
Plush Horse: bets 700
o]O2[o said, "man"
o]O2[o: calls 700

Turn (Pot : $2350)

   
Plush Horse: bets 1360 and is all-in
o]O2[o: folds
Plush Horse collected 2350 from pot
Plush Horse: doesn't show hand

Summary
Total pot 2350 | Rake 0
Board  
Seat 2: Castanza4 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Acehawk74 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: mrdollarbill (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: Plush Horse collected (2350)
Seat 6: o]O2[o folded on the Turn
Seat 8: Fiddlin JD folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: lowroller65 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

push flop

Usually I'd push this flop in a flash, but I'm trying to learn to lay this kind of stuff down.

Still a retarded move?

its push or fold.. no other option

so you call half your chips and fold when you 100% cannot fold
gj

yeah push the flopt ;o

if you lay down, it must be on the flop

Yeah, you can't fold that turn with half your stack in there.

Push the flop.

I'm a newbie, but I was wondering what you thought Plush Horse had?

TT maybe?

Raised pre-flop, caught his set and bet, turn is K hoping O2 had paired his K and would call his all-in with set?

^_^

Dunno, the more I look at this, the more I feel like a retard, then I look back at some other hands at say 25+2 and they have QQ 95% of the time.

Oxy just push the flop. I mean come on.

Submitted by : Oxy

PokerStars Game #4243407835: Tournament #21095052, Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2006/03/10 - 20:19:06 (ET)
Table '21095052 1' Seat #5 is the button
Seat 4: o]O2[o (4715 in chips)
Seat 5: CripLawyer (2520 in chips)
Seat 6: slick_dunc (1840 in chips)
Seat 9: ChesterP2000 (4425 in chips)
o]O2[o: posts the ante 25
CripLawyer: posts the ante 25
slick_dunc: posts the ante 25
ChesterP2000: posts the ante 25
slick_dunc: posts small blind 100
ChesterP2000: posts big blind 200

Holecards
Dealt to o]O2[o
o]O2[o: raises 400 to 600
CripLawyer: folds
slick_dunc: folds
ChesterP2000: raises 400 to 1000
o]O2[o: calls 400

Flop (Pot : $2100)

   
ChesterP2000: bets 1000
o]O2[o said, "this will be bloody"
o]O2[o: raises 2690 to 3690 and is all-in
ChesterP2000: calls 2400 and is all-in
o]O2[o said, "yeah, thought so"

Turn (Pot : $9480)

   

River (Pot : $9480)

   
ChesterP2000 said, "yep"

Showdown
ChesterP2000: shows (a flush, Queen high)
o]O2[o: shows (a flush, Queen high - lower cards)
ChesterP2000 collected 9000 from pot

Summary
Total pot 9000 | Rake 0
Board  
Seat 4: o]O2[o showed and lost with a flush, Queen high
Seat 5: CripLawyer (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: slick_dunc (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: ChesterP2000 (big blind) showed and won (9000) with a flush, Queen high

lol u dont see the difference?
The second hand is vs a pf reraise..which means ur pretty much playin for set value

you should have reraise preflop then you could think about pushin the flop or no. But since you didn't reraise preflop it's an easy fold. You are basiclly don't have enough information here to make a choice it's equal chance he had AK or AA or someover pair and since you didn't rerraise preflop now you just can't put him on anything. Presonally if it was a cash game I'd push preflop for even 2x pot if it's less than 50 bucks, if it's more, fuck it just fold and wait till you get something else! in tourny I'd fold cause it doesn't worse goin broke here on this.