AA facing shove on the river

No info on the guy since he just joined the table...

Submitted by : sTrAtO

PokerStars Game #10889465287: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2007/07/11 - 18:40:22 (ET)
Table 'Jakoba II' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: 50cc ($13 in chips)
Seat 2: Body Katex ($8.30 in chips)
Seat 3: queuezero ($14.05 in chips)
Seat 4: oowmaah ($33.75 in chips)
Seat 5: o_omx ($28 in chips)
Seat 6: methos82 ($12.10 in chips)
Seat 7: nerual ($25.10 in chips)
methos82: posts small blind $0.10
nerual: posts big blind $0.25
oowmaah: posts small & big blinds $0.35

Holecards
Dealt to o_omx
50cc: folds
Body Katex: folds
queuezero: folds
oowmaah: checks
o_omx : raises $1 to $1.25
methos82: folds
nerual: calls $1
oowmaah: folds

Flop (Pot : $2.60)

   
nerual: checks
o_omx : bets $2.25
nerual: calls $2.25

Turn (Pot : $7.10)

   
queuezero is sitting out
queuezero leaves the table
nerual: checks
o_omx : bets $4
nerual: calls $4

River (Pot : $15.10)

   
ponchot joins the table at seat #3
nerual: bets $17.60 and is all-in
o_omx :

Bleh, TT/44 or...I dunno.

Even complete donkeys have to throw a min-raise in there on the turn or something with a big hand (8x/Q8).

I probably call, hopefully he hit QT, and thinks it's the nizuts.

Looks like a strong line, maybe an 8, other possibilities are some sort of crazy bluff. I call though because he may have QT and think it's good, and it's not much more than a PSB.

he is a loose passive fish. 30/.5/.7 from 100 hands so if you had this info. ez fold.

river donkshoves are always the nuts. Fold

Check call twice and then all in on the river. I'd assume he has an 8 although I am pretty noob.

edit: aka fold

busted flush?

never gonna dance again, the way i danced with yoooouuuu

i call btw. what hand plays like this? why flat the turn and let a card come off with two clubs out then open shove the river? TT plays like this, so does a flush draw.

If he's stupid I might fold, but no sane person plays any big hands like this. Maybe 9cJc, which would make some sense. Also your turnbet is really weak so he might take that as weakness.

retards at 25NL play 8x like this

This should be a good fold and he probably has 8x in his hand and just doesn't want to miss his payoff on the river by shoving. Anytime someone plays like this I am highly suspicious of the river bet if they check/call the entire way. It usually means they're hiding a monster.

Fold, you're behind 90% of the time here, bet properly turn like 5 dollars at least.

i fold

i pot turn so i can easily get it in on the river.

That off suit T is perfect: both flush draws missed and didn't fill out any straight draws either.

And a donk shove isn't always the nuts in this spot. Very easily a busted draw. But going along with the read that he is indeed loose and passive. Then I could probably find a fold here.

But generally a call here is in order.