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TianYuan  Korea (South). Sep 17 2007 17:42. Posts 6817 | | |
Submitted by : TianYuan
** Game ID 1619044999 starting - 2007-09-18 01:25:05
** Danny Boy [Hold 'em] (1.00|2.00 No Limit - Cash Game) Real Money
- qqqoooqqq sitting in seat 1 with $372.34 [Dealer]
- pink-pony sitting in seat 2 with $197.00
- joutskari sitting in seat 3 with $350.89
- NilPferD sitting in seat 4 with $197.00
- 88keyz sitting in seat 5 with $207.28
- TanaKa1000 sitting in seat 6 with $332.95
pink-pony posted the small blind - $1.00
joutskari posted the big blind - $2.00
Holecards
 
NilPferD folded
88keyz raised - $8.00
TanaKa1000 called - $8.00
qqqoooqqq called - $8.00
pink-pony called - $8.00
joutskari called - $8.00
Flop (Pot : $40.00)
  
pink-pony checked
joutskari bet - $11.00
88keyz folded
TanaKa1000 called - $11.00
qqqoooqqq raised - $50.00
pink-pony folded
joutskari raised - $89.00
TanaKa1000 folded
qqqoooqqq called - $89.00
Turn (Pot : $229.00)
joutskari went all-in - $255.89
qqqoooqqq folded
joutskari mucks:
joutskari wins $481.89 from the main pot
End of game 1619044999
Opponent is 50/29/2, and is more or less the reason I'm not asleep (I promised myself I wouldn't quit before he did as that would be throwing money away).
Anyway, he's pretty aggro - 2.8 flop, 2.8 turn, 10 river (lol), he calls like 50 or 60% of all cbets etc, so he's basically terrible.
A few orbits ago I bet big 3 times with AsTx when I turned a flushdraw that got there on the river, in a Sb vs BB pot.
IIRC we haven't played any other big pots (and this pot was only about 35bb as he folded river).
I'm kinda lost here, I of course cannot call since Tanaka could very well have a seven here, as could the donkey, but then he INSTAmin3bets me.. I don't know if he's bad enough to do this with 2 pair, and I feel like his most likely holding is a straight.
So I call planning to stack off on a board pairing turn.. Although I really hate this. If I call and board pairs I still lose to higher sets, but now also to a bunch of 2 pairs. I beat his straights.
If I shove, I lose to his higher sets, his straights and I dunno if he'd fold a 2 pair hand but I don't think he has one.
Is it just a bad fold and I should be happy to get it in on the flop or is fold fine?
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TianYuan Korea (South). Sep 17 2007 18:49. Posts 6817 | | |
Btw, if the thread I made on 2+2 is anything to judge by I'm expecting to wake up seeing about 50 "SHOVE FLOP" posts.
Oh well, might as well leave the thread up, I found it to be a difficult spot, and I basically never fold sets. |
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Gumster Sweden. Sep 17 2007 19:29. Posts 2291 | | |
| | On September 17 2007 16:42 TianYuan wrote:
Opponent is 50/29/2, and is more or less the reason I'm not asleep (I promised myself I wouldn't quit before he did as that would be throwing money away).
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man do i recognize that |
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| Do not push the river, it will flow by itself. - Polish proverb | Last edit: 17/09/2007 19:29 |
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TianYuan Korea (South). Sep 18 2007 02:58. Posts 6817 | | |
If this hand was 3 way I would have never folded, is it wrong for me to think that because it's 5 way I'm so much more likely to be beat that I can fold? Or is the difference really not big enough? |
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I think you're really beat here, but I'm not folding sets that often either. |
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TianYuan Korea (South). Sep 18 2007 04:08. Posts 6817 | | |
So is it a flop fold or a turn fold? Or do you mean it's a fold on turn as played, but a flop shove? |
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| Hm.. Off-suite socks.. | Last edit: 18/09/2007 04:35 |
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Kapol Poland. Sep 18 2007 05:53. Posts 4696 | | |
Fold on turn as played, shove flop.
I can see him having 77 or 76 and he's prolly sticking it in on the flop with these hands. If he has a set/str8 and you decide to shove flop, it's the same as calling flop/shoving safe turn. But if he has a str8 draw or 2 pair here, than there are a lot of bad cards to come (killing the action/making a straight more obvious). That's why I like shoving muuuuuuuuch more than calling here.
EDIT: Folding to his 3-bet is also better than calling. |
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| BIBLE (Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth) | Last edit: 18/09/2007 06:49 |
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fold flop after he 3-bets you, unless you think hes capable of playing TPTK/ TT-JJ/A-7 ish type hand/any 2 pair/pair+straight draw like this, in which case you should prob get it in on the flop |
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| Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light not our darkness that most frightens us and as we let our own lights shine we unconsciously give other people permision to do the same | Last edit: 18/09/2007 06:43 |
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TianYuan Korea (South). Sep 18 2007 07:11. Posts 6817 | | | |
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| Hm.. Off-suite socks.. | Last edit: 18/09/2007 09:42 |
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YoMeR United States. Sep 18 2007 13:16. Posts 12438 | | |
This is one of those spots where you can ez fold a set.
I fold the set to the 3 bet on flop or if i'm feeling really lucky i call to suck out!
but yea fold that shit on flop to the 3 bet. |
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