AK oop vs 74/16 fish

Submitted by : RockingBastard

Seat 1: studiofreakz $62.70 in chips
Seat 2: sucout $104.50 in chips
Seat 3: andreo272 $18.50 in chips
Seat 4: Hero $105.90 in chips
Seat 5: ON EMPTY $103.30 in chips
Seat 6: iceandsnow $124.85 in chips
Seat 7: redrag0nz $223.95 in chips
Seat 8: MOMSEN $99.35 in chips
Seat 9: LandRock79 $99.40 in chips
sucout: posts small blind $0.50
andreo272: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero
Hero : raises $2.50 to $3.50
ON EMPTY: folds
iceandsnow: folds
redrag0nz: folds
MOMSEN: folds
LandRock79: folds
studiofreakz: calls $3.50
sucout: folds
andreo272: folds
*** FLOP ***
Hero : bets $6
studiofreakz: calls $6
*** TURN ***
Hero : checks
studiofreakz: bets $10
Hero : folds

when you don't hit against a station out of position, and especially when you don't really have any kind of draw, keep the pot as small as possible.
So checkcalling a small bet hoping for a showdown is fine. Checkfolding is also fine.

Just make a pair and 3 barrel.

if you know villain to be a station and will stack off with 88-22 here or a T all day then i check/fold turn. If you know the villain to be calling flop light at all but won't get it all in without a strong hand then I'm going to be hammering all 3 streets.

basically a 2nd/3rd barrel here needs an accurate assessment of villain's ranges and how he'll react. (read based basically)

wat? Dont ever second barrel here you will get zeeboed so bad.

even the flop bet is iffy vs this player

Yeah I'd just leave this flop alone. I think this is a very good spot for a 2nd barrell, since all villain's draws are now screwed, but definitely not vs a 74/16!

lol!

Submitted by : Royal_Rumble

PokerStars Game #16630012463: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2008/04/10 - 15:44:07 (ET)
Table 'Nestor III' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: Hero ($133.30 in chips)
Seat 2: Landersp ($46.90 in chips)
Seat 3: FaLLout86 ($118.45 in chips)
Seat 4: ESTPatrick ($158.90 in chips)
Seat 5: HenryDuke ($28.25 in chips)
Seat 6: Keev2K ($82.50 in chips)
Seat 7: Hero ld75 ($58.50 in chips)
Seat 8: sunSTORM112 ($103.20 in chips)
Seat 9: mind4mind ($98.50 in chips)
sunSTORM112: posts small blind $0.50
mind4mind: posts big blind $1

Holecards
Dealt to Hero
Hero : raises $3 to $4
Landersp: folds
FaLLout86: folds
ESTPatrick: folds
HenryDuke: folds
Keev2K: calls $4
Hero ld75: folds
sunSTORM112: folds
mind4mind: folds

Flop (Pot : $9.50)

   
Hero : bets $7
Keev2K: calls $7

Turn (Pot : $23.50)

   
Hero : checks
Keev2K: bets $10
Hero : folds
Keev2K collected $22.35 from pot
Keev2K: doesn't show hand

Summary
Total pot $23.50 | Rake $1.15
Board  
Seat 1: Hero folded on the Turn
Seat 2: Landersp folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: FaLLout86 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: ESTPatrick folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: HenryDuke folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Keev2K collected ($22.35)
Seat 7: Hero ld75 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: sunSTORM112 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: mind4mind (big blind) folded before Flop

interesting spot imo. one /of those 14/8/3 guys .

think i should have continued here. Why?
I think his calling range is highcards, which whom i chop if he has an ace, otherwise i am ahead, and, more interestingly: pocket pairs, with whom he is setmining. Well, unlikely he has AA or KK, since i have either one, that makes up for QQ, JJ, and 22-88, which got counterfeited on the turn.

so how do we play the same situation against a reg? Read my comment and tell me if i am right.

I'd expect to be good here ~50% of the time or so against these types of players, since your getting 3:1 I'm not going anywhere

he's betting all small pairs he peels flop with as well as flush draws and QJ/KJ type stuff
even tho he's nitty it doesnt mean he's got a ten or a 9 here
agree w/ tom

On April 10 2008 13:59 TalentedTom wrote: I'd expect to be good here ~50% of the time or so against these types of players, since your getting 3:1 I'm not going anywhere

i'd probably call anything potsized or less on the river too, since he should be betting his entire range except A-high.
And I've gotta think you're good more than 50% of the time here.. i dont think theres too many 9s or Ts in his pf range.

Expecting your opponents to do as they "should" is dangerous business.