On July 09 2009 03:12 Baal wrote:
holy fucking shit.... This video is outrageous, not only because the Federal Reserve has no supervision whatsoever but also the incompetence of this woman is astonishing, how on earth does somebody like that ends up in that high profile job? seriously she was like a deer caught in headlights.
That woman puts me on tilt so much. U.S is retarded for having a private central bank. There were 2 public central banks but the last one went bankrupt before WWII.
I'm sorry for the americans that their governemnt is one of the most corrupted in the entire world.
On July 09 2009 03:12 Baal wrote:
holy fucking shit.... This video is outrageous, not only because the Federal Reserve has no supervision whatsoever but also the incompetence of this woman is astonishing, how on earth does somebody like that ends up in that high profile job? seriously she was like a deer caught in headlights.
That woman puts me on tilt so much. U.S is retarded for having a private central bank. There were 2 public central banks but the last one went bankrupt before WWII.
I'm sorry for the americans that their governemnt is one of the most corrupted in the entire world.
The sad thing is most people in the US don't even realize the concept of what you mean by a central bank and the way we are brought up to be so instantly self serving and on the go it just seems like this should be a natural thing w/out much debate.
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ToTehEastSide United States. Jul 10 2009 18:42. Posts 1337
this fight is going to get big as fed is going to dig its heels in bigtime and never ever open its doors easily...
"Kohn warns Congress on meddling in Fed's affairs"
Fed Vice Chairman Donald Kohn
Testifying before a congressional panel, Kohn sought to beat back a proposed bill that would open the U.S. central bank's policy decisions to audits by a federal watchdog agency. More than half of the members of the U.S. House of Representatives have signed as co-sponsors of the measure.
The GAO is currently prohibited from auditing these areas. Kohn said removing this exclusion would be highly detrimental and could lead investors to worry that politics -- not economics -- would guide the Fed's decisions.
"The Federal Reserve strongly believes that removing the statutory limits on GAO audits of monetary policy matters would be contrary to the public interest by tending to undermine the independence and efficacy of monetary policy," Kohn said.
He also said it could "cast a chill" on monetary policy deliberations by making officials nervous that ideas they discuss behind closed doors could become public.
Paul denied his bill was about Fed independence. "We are not looking to the Congress to run monetary policy. We just want to know what's going on, and why," he told Kohn.
Kohn warned that congressional meddling in the Fed's affairs could threaten the United States' AAA credit rating and drive up interest rates.
"Any kind of hint that you are trying to take away Fed independence could be very counterproductive at this point in time," Bullard told Bloomberg television.
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ToTehEastSide United States. Jul 10 2009 19:13. Posts 1337
seriously think about the scope of this
if the Federal Reserve is completely and independently making secret transactions in the trillions and the people and Congress demand transparency... just imagine the possibilities and the degree the Fed will go to take our eye off the ball or make sure we never fully get there
the level is outstanding
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ToTehEastSide United States. Jul 21 2009 14:51. Posts 1337
bump for a few points (from least to greatest)
-In retrospect I'd like to change/tweak the point of me saying that this is an issue that becomes worldwide. The Federal Reserve is already indeed a worldwide affecting thing. But this issue is not worldwide in the sense that monetary policy and financial transactions are much preferred to be behind closed doors and not a public aware of or known type thing, and that is what I meant.
This is just a guess of course, but I believe at the rate everything is going this will hopefully become something everyone is aware of and gains knowledge of.
-For anyone that follows this issue even just a little, it is wise to always keep in mind that Bernanke's term of chairmanship ends or is up for renewal/replacement this January
Holy shit that video is even worse... the guy was fucking stuttering...
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ToTehEastSide United States. Jul 21 2009 22:41. Posts 1337
that's the main Fed big dog Bernanke, ranked 4th most powerful man in the world by NEWSWEEK
(here's their top ten btw)
1: Barack Obama
2: Hu Jintao
3: Nicolas Sarkozy
4-5-6: Economic Triumvirate
7: Gordon Brown
8: Angela Merkel
9: Vladimir Putin
10: Abdullah bin Abdulaziz Al-Saud
but to get back on track
to me that video is actually a really interesting and good one on many different levels
I mean imagine you only get 5 minutes...
ToTehEastSide United States. Jul 25 2009 20:32. Posts 1337
This does a good job of putting things into perspective
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since I bumped this active again I should update
H.R. 1207 is now up to 276 cosponsors
there needs to be just a few more
here is the list of who is on it + Show Spoiler +
Rep Abercrombie, Neil [HI-1] - 2/26/2009
Rep Aderholt, Robert B. [AL-4] - 5/6/2009
Rep Adler, John H. [NJ-3] - 5/6/2009
Rep Akin, W. Todd [MO-2] - 3/19/2009
Rep Alexander, Rodney [LA-5] - 3/10/2009
Rep Altmire, Jason [PA-4] - 5/20/2009
Rep Austria, Steve [OH-7] - 5/6/2009
Rep Bachmann, Michele [MN-6] - 2/26/2009
Rep Bachus, Spencer [AL-6] - 4/29/2009
Rep Baird, Brian [WA-3] - 7/10/2009
Rep Baldwin, Tammy [WI-2] - 4/21/2009
Rep Barrett, J. Gresham [SC-3] - 4/28/2009
Rep Barrow, John [GA-12] - 5/12/2009
Rep Bartlett, Roscoe G. [MD-6] - 2/26/2009
Rep Barton, Joe [TX-6] - 5/4/2009
Rep Berkley, Shelley [NV-1] - 5/21/2009
Rep Berry, Marion [AR-1] - 5/20/2009
Rep Biggert, Judy [IL-13] - 4/28/2009
Rep Bilbray, Brian P. [CA-50] - 4/21/2009
Rep Bilirakis, Gus M. [FL-9] - 5/4/2009
Rep Bishop, Rob [UT-1] - 4/21/2009
Rep Bishop, Timothy H. [NY-1] - 7/10/2009
Rep Blackburn, Marsha [TN-7] - 3/16/2009
Rep Blunt, Roy [MO-7] - 3/24/2009
Rep Boehner, John A. [OH-8] - 6/10/2009
Rep Bonner, Jo [AL-1] - 6/9/2009
Rep Bono Mack, Mary [CA-45] - 4/29/2009
Rep Boozman, John [AR-3] - 5/7/2009
Rep Boswell, Leonard L. [IA-3] - 6/9/2009
Rep Boucher, Rick [VA-9] - 7/20/2009
Rep Boustany, Charles W., Jr. [LA-7] - 5/13/2009
Rep Boyd, Allen [FL-2] - 7/14/2009
Rep Brady, Kevin [TX-8] - 4/22/2009
Rep Braley, Bruce L. [IA-1] - 6/11/2009
Rep Bright, Bobby [AL-2] - 6/11/2009
Rep Broun, Paul C. [GA-10] - 2/26/2009
Rep Brown, Corrine [FL-3] - 6/11/2009
Rep Brown, Henry E., Jr. [SC-1] - 4/28/2009
Rep Brown-Waite, Ginny [FL-5] - 5/20/2009
Rep Buchanan, Vern [FL-13] - 3/17/2009
Rep Burgess, Michael C. [TX-26] - 3/19/2009
Rep Burton, Dan [IN-5] - 2/26/2009
Rep Buyer, Steve [IN-4] - 4/30/2009
Rep Calvert, Ken [CA-44] - 4/29/2009
Rep Camp, Dave [MI-4] - 6/18/2009
Rep Campbell, John [CA-48] - 5/4/2009
Rep Cantor, Eric [VA-7] - 6/23/2009
Rep Cao, Anh "Joseph" [LA-2] - 6/11/2009
Rep Capito, Shelley Moore [WV-2] - 4/1/2009
Rep Carney, Christopher P. [PA-10] - 6/9/2009
Rep Carter, John R. [TX-31] - 3/31/2009
Rep Cassidy, Bill [LA-6] - 5/4/2009
Rep Castle, Michael N. [DE] - 3/17/2009
Rep Chaffetz, Jason [UT-3] - 3/6/2009
Rep Chandler, Ben [KY-6] - 7/7/2009
Rep Childers, Travis [MS-1] - 6/9/2009
Rep Coble, Howard [NC-6] - 6/11/2009
Rep Coffman, Mike [CO-6] - 6/16/2009
Rep Cole, Tom [OK-4] - 4/21/2009
Rep Conaway, K. Michael [TX-11] - 5/7/2009
Rep Conyers, John, Jr. [MI-14] - 6/23/2009
Rep Courtney, Joe [CT-2] - 7/8/2009
Rep Crenshaw, Ander [FL-4] - 5/4/2009
Rep Culberson, John Abney [TX-7] - 3/26/2009
Rep Dahlkemper, Kathleen A. [PA-3] - 7/22/2009
Rep Davis, Danny K. [IL-7] - 6/26/2009
Rep Davis, Geoff [KY-4] - 5/6/2009
Rep Deal, Nathan [GA-9] - 3/23/2009
Rep DeFazio, Peter A. [OR-4] - 3/9/2009
Rep Dent, Charles W. [PA-15] - 5/6/2009
Rep Diaz-Balart, Lincoln [FL-21] - 7/10/2009
Rep Diaz-Balart, Mario [FL-25] - 6/18/2009
Rep Doggett, Lloyd [TX-25] - 4/21/2009
Rep Dreier, David [CA-26] - 6/10/2009
Rep Duncan, John J., Jr. [TN-2] - 3/6/2009
Rep Edwards, Chet [TX-17] - 6/16/2009
Rep Edwards, Donna F. [MD-4] - 6/11/2009
Rep Ehlers, Vernon J. [MI-3] - 4/21/2009
Rep Emerson, Jo Ann [MO-8] - 7/15/2009
Rep Fallin, Mary [OK-5] - 4/2/2009
Rep Farr, Sam [CA-17] - 7/8/2009
Rep Flake, Jeff [AZ-6] - 5/11/2009
Rep Fleming, John [LA-4] - 3/18/2009
Rep Forbes, J. Randy [VA-4] - 5/20/2009
Rep Fortenberry, Jeff [NE-1] - 5/12/2009
Rep Foxx, Virginia [NC-5] - 3/10/2009
Rep Franks, Trent [AZ-2] - 3/23/2009
Rep Frelinghuysen, Rodney P. [NJ-11] - 6/3/2009
Rep Fudge, Marcia L. [OH-11] - 7/9/2009
Rep Gallegly, Elton [CA-24] - 7/7/2009
Rep Garrett, Scott [NJ-5] - 3/5/2009
Rep Gerlach, Jim [PA-6] - 5/11/2009
Rep Giffords, Gabrielle [AZ-8] - 6/16/2009
Rep Gingrey, Phil [GA-11] - 3/30/2009
Rep Gohmert, Louie [TX-1] - 4/23/2009
Rep Goodlatte, Bob [VA-6] - 4/28/2009
Rep Granger, Kay [TX-12] - 4/28/2009
Rep Graves, Sam [MO-6] - 4/22/2009
Rep Grayson, Alan [FL-8] - 3/11/2009
Rep Griffith, Parker [AL-5] - 6/16/2009
Rep Grijalva, Raul M. [AZ-7] - 6/3/2009
Rep Guthrie, Brett [KY-2] - 5/7/2009
Rep Hall, Ralph M. [TX-4] - 4/29/2009
Rep Halvorson, Deborah L. [IL-11] - 6/3/2009
Rep Hare, Phil [IL-17] - 5/11/2009
Rep Harman, Jane [CA-36] - 7/7/2009
Rep Harper, Gregg [MS-3] - 5/11/2009
Rep Hastings, Doc [WA-4] - 5/11/2009
Rep Heller, Dean [NV-2] - 3/6/2009
Rep Hensarling, Jeb [TX-5] - 5/4/2009
Rep Herger, Wally [CA-2] - 4/21/2009
Rep Herseth Sandlin, Stephanie [SD] - 5/6/2009
Rep Hinchey, Maurice D. [NY-22] - 6/2/2009
Rep Hirono, Mazie K. [HI-2] - 7/8/2009
Rep Hoekstra, Peter [MI-2] - 4/28/2009
Rep Holden, Tim [PA-17] - 6/4/2009
Rep Hunter, Duncan D. [CA-52] - 5/13/2009
Rep Inglis, Bob [SC-4] - 4/23/2009
Rep Inslee, Jay [WA-1] - 5/12/2009
Rep Issa, Darrell E. [CA-49] - 6/16/2009
Rep Jenkins, Lynn [KS-2] - 4/23/2009
Rep Johnson, Henry C. "Hank," Jr. [GA-4] - 6/9/2009
Rep Johnson, Sam [TX-3] - 4/22/2009
Rep Johnson, Timothy V. [IL-15] - 4/23/2009
Rep Jones, Walter B., Jr. [NC-3] - 2/26/2009
Rep Jordan, Jim [OH-4] - 6/2/2009
Rep Kagen, Steve [WI-8] - 2/26/2009
Rep Kaptur, Marcy [OH-9] - 4/23/2009
Rep King, Peter T. [NY-3] - 6/4/2009
Rep King, Steve [IA-5] - 6/11/2009
Rep Kingston, Jack [GA-1] - 3/6/2009
Rep Kirk, Mark Steven [IL-10] - 7/15/2009
Rep Kirkpatrick, Ann [AZ-1] - 7/14/2009
Rep Kline, John [MN-2] - 4/29/2009
Rep Kosmas, Suzanne M. [FL-24] - 6/17/2009
Rep Kratovil, Frank, Jr. [MD-1] - 6/4/2009
Rep Kucinich, Dennis J. [OH-10] - 6/11/2009
Rep Lamborn, Doug [CO-5] - 4/21/2009
Rep Lance, Leonard [NJ-7] - 5/11/2009
Rep Latham, Tom [IA-4] - 4/21/2009
Rep LaTourette, Steven C. [OH-14] - 4/28/2009
Rep Latta, Robert E. [OH-5] - 5/20/2009
Rep Lee, Christopher J. [NY-26] - 6/10/2009
Rep Lewis, Jerry [CA-41] - 6/24/2009
Rep Linder, John [GA-7] - 5/6/2009
Rep Lipinski, Daniel [IL-3] - 6/4/2009
Rep LoBiondo, Frank A. [NJ-2] - 5/4/2009
Rep Loebsack, David [IA-2] - 6/10/2009
Rep Lofgren, Zoe [CA-16] - 7/7/2009
Rep Lucas, Frank D. [OK-3] - 4/21/2009
Rep Luetkemeyer, Blaine [MO-9] - 4/21/2009
Rep Lummis, Cynthia M. [WY] - 3/19/2009
Rep Lungren, Daniel E. [CA-3] - 5/7/2009
Rep Mack, Connie [FL-14] - 5/12/2009
Rep Maffei, Daniel B. [NY-25] - 5/12/2009
Rep Manzullo, Donald A. [IL-16] - 4/21/2009
Rep Marchant, Kenny [TX-24] - 3/11/2009
Rep Markey, Betsy [CO-4] - 6/25/2009
Rep Massa, Eric J. J. [NY-29] - 4/22/2009
Rep McCarthy, Kevin [CA-22] - 5/4/2009
Rep McCaul, Michael T. [TX-10] - 4/21/2009
Rep McClintock, Tom [CA-4] - 3/6/2009
Rep McCotter, Thaddeus G. [MI-11] - 3/19/2009
Rep McDermott, Jim [WA-7] - 4/29/2009
Rep McGovern, James P. [MA-3] - 6/10/2009
Rep McHenry, Patrick T. [NC-10] - 4/30/2009
Rep McHugh, John M. [NY-23] - 5/4/2009
Rep McIntyre, Mike [NC-7] - 6/10/2009
Rep McKeon, Howard P. "Buck" [CA-25] - 6/11/2009
Rep McMorris Rodgers, Cathy [WA-5] - 5/4/2009
Rep Melancon, Charlie [LA-3] - 7/10/2009
Rep Mica, John L. [FL-7] - 5/12/2009
Rep Michaud, Michael H. [ME-2] - 5/7/2009
Rep Miller, Candice S. [MI-10] - 4/28/2009
Rep Miller, Gary G. [CA-42] - 6/10/2009
Rep Miller, Jeff [FL-1] - 3/24/2009
Rep Minnick, Walter [ID-1] - 5/13/2009
Rep Mitchell, Harry E. [AZ-5] - 6/9/2009
Rep Moran, Jerry [KS-1] - 5/4/2009
Rep Murphy, Christopher S. [CT-5] - 7/7/2009
Rep Murphy, Patrick J. [PA-8] - 6/9/2009
Rep Murphy, Scott [NY-20] - 7/9/2009
Rep Murphy, Tim [PA-18] - 4/29/2009
Rep Myrick, Sue Wilkins [NC-9] - 4/28/2009
Rep Neugebauer, Randy [TX-19] - 4/30/2009
Rep Nunes, Devin [CA-21] - 6/12/2009
Rep Olson, Pete [TX-22] - 4/21/2009
Rep Ortiz, Solomon P. [TX-27] - 5/14/2009
Rep Pascrell, Bill, Jr. [NJ-8] - 6/9/2009
Rep Pastor, Ed [AZ-4] - 5/20/2009
Rep Paulsen, Erik [MN-3] - 3/30/2009
Rep Pence, Mike [IN-6] - 4/21/2009
Rep Perlmutter, Ed [CO-7] - 6/10/2009
Rep Perriello, Thomas S.P. [VA-5] - 5/13/2009
Rep Peterson, Collin C. [MN-7] - 3/19/2009
Rep Petri, Thomas E. [WI-6] - 3/10/2009
Rep Pitts, Joseph R. [PA-16] - 4/28/2009
Rep Platts, Todd Russell [PA-19] - 3/19/2009
Rep Poe, Ted [TX-2] - 2/26/2009
Rep Polis, Jared [CO-2] - 6/11/2009
Rep Posey, Bill [FL-15] - 2/26/2009
Rep Price, Tom [GA-6] - 3/10/2009
Rep Putnam, Adam H. [FL-12] - 4/28/2009
Rep Radanovich, George [CA-19] - 5/6/2009
Rep Rehberg, Denny [MT] - 2/26/2009
Rep Reichert, David G. [WA-8] - 5/20/2009
Rep Roe, David P. [TN-1] - 4/21/2009
Rep Rogers, Harold [KY-5] - 7/14/2009
Rep Rogers, Mike D. [AL-3] - 5/13/2009
Rep Rogers, Mike J. [MI-8] - 5/20/2009
Rep Rohrabacher, Dana [CA-46] - 3/6/2009
Rep Rooney, Thomas J. [FL-16] - 4/22/2009
Rep Ros-Lehtinen, Ileana [FL-18] - 4/28/2009
Rep Roskam, Peter J. [IL-6] - 6/2/2009
Rep Ross, Mike [AR-4] - 5/21/2009
Rep Rothman, Steven R. [NJ-9] - 6/18/2009
Rep Royce, Edward R. [CA-40] - 5/12/2009
Rep Ryan, Paul [WI-1] - 5/14/2009
Rep Salazar, John T. [CO-3] - 7/15/2009
Rep Sarbanes, John P. [MD-3] - 6/15/2009
Rep Scalise, Steve [LA-1] - 5/20/2009
Rep Schakowsky, Janice D. [IL-9] - 5/6/2009
Rep Schauer, Mark H. [MI-7] - 5/20/2009
Rep Schiff, Adam B. [CA-29] - 7/14/2009
Rep Schmidt, Jean [OH-2] - 6/11/2009
Rep Schock, Aaron [IL-18] - 5/6/2009
Rep Scott, David [GA-13] - 7/20/2009
Rep Sensenbrenner, F. James, Jr. [WI-5] - 5/7/2009
Rep Sessions, Pete [TX-32] - 3/23/2009
Rep Shadegg, John B. [AZ-3] - 5/7/2009
Rep Shea-Porter, Carol [NH-1] - 6/9/2009
Rep Sherman, Brad [CA-27] - 6/23/2009
Rep Shimkus, John [IL-19] - 4/22/2009
Rep Shuler, Heath [NC-11] - 6/12/2009
Rep Shuster, Bill [PA-9] - 5/7/2009
Rep Simpson, Michael K. [ID-2] - 4/28/2009
Rep Slaughter, Louise McIntosh [NY-28] - 6/17/2009
Rep Smith, Adam [WA-9] - 4/22/2009
Rep Smith, Adrian [NE-3] - 4/28/2009
Rep Smith, Christopher H. [NJ-4] - 6/15/2009
Rep Smith, Lamar [TX-21] - 4/2/2009
Rep Snyder, Vic [AR-2] - 6/23/2009
Rep Souder, Mark E. [IN-3] - 6/16/2009
Rep Space, Zachary T. [OH-18] - 6/23/2009
Rep Speier, Jackie [CA-12] - 6/11/2009
Rep Stark, Fortney Pete [CA-13] - 3/26/2009
Rep Stearns, Cliff [FL-6] - 3/6/2009
Rep Sullivan, John [OK-1] - 7/8/2009
Rep Taylor, Gene [MS-4] - 3/6/2009
Rep Teague, Harry [NM-2] - 6/12/2009
Rep Terry, Lee [NE-2] - 3/30/2009
Rep Thompson, Bennie G. [MS-2] - 7/17/2009
Rep Thompson, Glenn [PA-5] - 4/22/2009
Rep Thornberry, Mac [TX-13] - 5/21/2009
Rep Tiahrt, Todd [KS-4] - 4/28/2009
Rep Tiberi, Patrick J. [OH-12] - 4/28/2009
Rep Tierney, John F. [MA-6] - 7/20/2009
Rep Titus, Dina [NV-3] - 7/14/2009
Rep Tonko, Paul D. [NY-21] - 6/9/2009
Rep Turner, Michael R. [OH-3] - 5/13/2009
Rep Upton, Fred [MI-6] - 4/29/2009
Rep Visclosky, Peter J. [IN-1] - 7/20/2009
Rep Walden, Greg [OR-2] - 5/4/2009
Rep Walz, Timothy J. [MN-1] - 5/7/2009
Rep Wamp, Zach [TN-3] - 3/16/2009
Rep Welch, Peter [VT] - 5/21/2009
Rep Westmoreland, Lynn A. [GA-3] - 4/2/2009
Rep Whitfield, Ed [KY-1] - 5/14/2009
Rep Wilson, Joe [SC-2] - 4/29/2009
Rep Wittman, Robert J. [VA-1] - 4/1/2009
Rep Wolf, Frank R. [VA-10] - 6/11/2009
Rep Woolsey, Lynn C. [CA-6] - 2/26/2009
Rep Wu, David [OR-1] - 7/13/2009
Rep Yarmuth, John A. [KY-3] - 7/14/2009
Rep Young, C.W. Bill [FL-10] - 6/3/2009
Rep Young, Don [AK] - 3/6/2009
I definitely recommend seeing if your rep is there - if you don't know who that is or something I'd be more than glad to help
As for S. 604 (the Senate version) there actually is better progress than I thought there would be by this point with 19 cosponsors
Here is the list (I'll do this one by date signed on) + Show Spoiler +
Sen DeMint, Jim [SC] - 6/11/2009
Sen Vitter, David [LA] - 6/16/2009
Sen Crapo, Mike [ID] - 6/25/2009
Sen Isakson, Johnny [GA] - 7/8/2009
Sen Chambliss, Saxby [GA] - 7/8/2009
Sen Brownback, Sam [KS] - 7/8/2009
Sen Inhofe, James M. [OK] - 7/9/2009
Sen Burr, Richard [NC] - 7/9/2009
Sen Feingold, Russell D. [WI] - 7/15/2009
Sen Lincoln, Blanche L. [AR] - 7/15/2009
Sen McCain, John [AZ] - 7/15/2009
Sen Bennett, Robert F. [UT] - 7/15/2009
Sen Barrasso, John [WY] - 7/15/2009
Sen Harkin, Tom [IA] - 7/20/2009
Sen Hutchison, Kay Bailey [TX] - 7/20/2009
Sen Cornyn, John [TX] - 7/20/2009
Sen Coburn, Tom [OK] - 7/20/2009
Sen Hatch, Orrin G. [UT] - 7/24/2009
Sen Graham, Lindsey [SC] - 7/24/2009
both of the senators for my state are now on this so there isn't really any one for me to say hey wtf to anymore
if you ur even remotely curious to find out about ur community, this bill is a GREAT way to find out which side of the fence your state or district reps are really on
fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity
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ToTehEastSide United States. Jul 26 2009 00:16. Posts 1337
because to me the question is
are you more REPRESENTED or TAXED??
and this is a fine way to tell
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