Joe@10/20, top2 on flop 3way

Submitted by : Joe

RandomDonky sitting in seat 1 with €2041.00
danneville sitting in seat 2 with €4344.00[Dealer]
marcoboogers sitting in seat 3 with €2709.00
Joeik4 sitting in seat 4 with €2562.98
martinyy sitting in seat 5 with €2771.00
kgs1000 sitting in seat 6 with €1289.62
marcoboogers posted the small blind - €10.00
Joeik4 posted the big blind - €20.00

Holecards
   
martinyy folded
kgs1000 raised to €60.00
RandomDonky folded
danneville called - €60.00
marcoboogers folded
Joeik4 called - €60.00

Flop (Pot : $190.00)

   
Joeik4 checked
kgs1000 bet - €180.00
danneville raised to €450.00
Joeik4 ?

danneville can only have 66 that beats you... you cant flat, you cant fold, ship it and hope for the best
the fish will probably call anyway

Unless I've just played you far to little lately (might be, but whatever) your stats are not anywhere halfway close to that. Actually I think I have you a fair bit tighter despite my HEM counting anything 4-handed+ since I'm stupid with computers. Don't matter though, to few hands that beats you and a fair bit of draws and stupid crap that goes broke vs you even though they shouldn't. I think it's a failry easy shove/raise/whatever.

yeah joe my impression is u r definitely tighter than stated

this being at microgaming makes the choice all the easier-- agreed with what rest said

i'd tend to flat cuz of the huge monkey....

shoving is also fine

just don't fold plz joe :D

On November 11 2009 00:02 Fayth wrote: [...] just don't fold plz joe :D

FU!

Rest of the post was part of my thoughts too.

As for my stats - what i put in there are stats from just that table. I am not sure how the reg sees me in terms of stats longterm, because I used to be way tighter just couple months back, then I had a shortstacking period and since then, my stats just went crazy even when I returned back to fullstacking in the past few weeks (by my standards at least)
Anyway, its not that important, I am sure he doesnt sees me neither as a very loose player nor as a very tight player, so something standard.


And CamilaPunt, comments like this being Microgaming blablabla are not helpfull, please post valid reasoning or nothing at all, thx.

ahaha thats what u get for flatting pre :d
as for what to do Id do whatever Id do with whatever im trying to rep to get them to call me with worse, probably jam.

i jam cuz its the only thing i could do to not rep only a really strong hand.

On November 11 2009 20:35 EvilSky wrote: ahaha thats what u get for flatting pre :d as for what to do Id do whatever Id do with whatever im trying to rep to get them to call me with worse, probably jam.

i dont see a problem flatting pre... id probably just ship it as well.

ship>call>>>>>>>>>>>fold

fold or squeeze preflop. overcalling oop vs 2 people, one of whom is a mid-stacked fishy player who doesn't really raise that many hands and is very aggro is not gonna work out too well

if the fish raises more like 20%+ then squeezing is almost certainly the best play but just because somebody is loose with his limping and calling preflop doesn't necessarily mean that you should put him on a wide range when he open-raises

Flatting pre is better here imo. Apart from other reasons, the most likely scenario on the flop is, that I check any flop, fish potbets almost any flop then the reg has to make his decision in a spot where he shouldnt be getting too much out of line, which means he is often folding there and then I get to play vs. the fish based on what I hit and of course I am easily getting it in with a top pair hand + I might get him to fold quite some when I check/ship draws.


But I would much preffer if we discussed the flop decision here, I would specifically like to hear some reasonings on why raising is or isnt better then flatting and then if raising smallish is or isnt better than shoving.

I think raising looks more like a draw/weaker hand for the regular and more like a strong hand for the fish. Flating is probably a little scary for the reg and dosnt bother the fish.
Anyway idk how is this reg seeing you, cuz if i was in his shoes i woulda be worried no matter if u flat or raise(ofc if i dont have smth like 66 or KThh and probably A6)

Anyway - i really prefer sqz preflop with this hand - it plays so god damn easy on like 90% onf the flops.

i think you're not going to show a profit calling here just to get it in vs the fish with top pair hands when the regular folds