Mid-Stakes Coaching!

I am going to be taking on another group of full-time students in January. The minimum requirements are an $8k bankroll and stakes of $1/2 or higher. The total cost of the long-term program is $10,000, at a profit-sharing rate of 25%, with $0 paid upfront. This is under contract that you will sign in person. If you are interested in attending the seminar without receiving further coaching, please e-mail me at corwin.cole@cardrunners.com for attendance pricing details. Please read the description below carefully, and see the end of the post for a list of topics to be covered during the 5-day introductory seminar.

1. There is a 60-120 minute preliminary interview lesson. This lesson is free of charge. If, afterward, we both feel we are compatible and want to proceed, we'll go ahead. Only about 40% of people who apply for coaching with me end up entering the deal, typically because I feel that they are not sufficiently advanced or have some other hindrance that gets in the way of their potential to learn under me (such as poor emotional control). Please note that during this interview lesson, I am going to spend a few minutes introducing the program, the risks associated with it, and its purpose and benefits. Following that brief discussion, I will ask you to play 2-4 tables of your normal game, and I will sweat you, ask questions, and comment on your play.

2. The coaching begins with 5 days of in-person training, which for my next session will be in Las Vegas from January 18-22, 2010. From there forward, you receive 2 hours per month of coaching, for a maximum of 2 years, or until you have profited $40,000, whichever comes first. At that point, I will have received $10,000 from you, paid in installments as you reach profit (or time) milestones. The milestone increments are every $8,000 of profit or every 6 months of coaching, whichever comes first. There is no payment up-front, but you are responsible for the cost of travel and lodging. For the January 2010 session, about 10 students are expected to participate. Coaching after the introductory session includes database review, sweat sessions with me watching you, reverse sweat sessions, and video review.

3. Additionally, you will have access to me at any time for questions via e-mail, instant messenger, etc, and you will join a private discussion group designed solely for myself and my students. There, I submit a lot of written content that will never be available to the public, particularly concepts that I choose not to discuss in my CardRunners videos. The value of this private forum is tremendous and the students are highly active on it.

4. There is an expected minimum commitment from you of 10 hours of play per week. Realistically, I expect you to play quite a bit more than that, and am unlikely to take you on board unless I feel that you are committed to putting in the hours and making my time worthwhile. The 2-year maximum duration of my contract is purely a technicality, and almost 100% of my students fulfill the terms of the deal in under 1 year. As a testament to my success, I currently have two students on my roster who were previous long-term students at lower stakes with smaller deals, and have returned for additional coaching.

Topics covered during the 5-day introductory seminar include, but are not limited to:

- Self-management, how to be more like nanonoko: playing tons of hands, and playing well, every single day.
- Hand-reading, techniques for putting your opponent on a specific range and realizing just how transparent people really are.
- Unorthodox lines, how to use them, what they accomplish, and why your opponents are missing a lot of value by playing too robotically.
- Thought-process errors, how you can change the way you approach a decision, so that you correct every mistake in the future.
- Tournaments for the cash game player, why you should play them and how to destroy them.

If you are interested, please e-mail me at corwin.cole@cardrunners.com!

sounds awsome, if i had the roll id go for it

ever since you won 1% of me im net down

If I wasn't in the marine corps I would jump on asap... Fml

On November 21 2009 11:08 DarkDevildog wrote: If I wasn't in the marine corps I would jump on asap... Fml

because you're a marine or because you can jump on the coach wagon?

If I only had a roll :/

hate to be the one to say it but im sure im not the only person that thinks this and everyone else is just keeping quiet cause everyone likes myth

but this is borderline scam. all that money for midstakes coaching from someone who cant beat midstakes online? really?

On November 21 2009 11:33 rednalluk wrote: Show nested quote + On November 21 2009 11:08 DarkDevildog wrote: If I wasn't in the marine corps I would jump on asap... Fml because you're a marine or because you can jump on the coach wagon?

getting coached

since when myth cant beat midstakes online? when did that happen?

lol ket

you typically only make posts when you know what you're talking about, but this is just ridiculous. my students do very well and if you want to interview them yourself to ask how much they've learned and how effective my coaching is to help them, then send me an e-mail and i'll let you do your own homework

but until you actually have a clue about the value of my coaching, please don't be an asshole

well erm I have no doubt your coaching might be effective, but you haven't beaten midstakes online for about a year right ?

sigh guess there was no way to make that post without causing upset=[ its my belief the value of a coach is very strongly linked with how well the coach can do actually playing poker himself, sure there are other factors and i have no doubt youre great in all the other factors apart from being good enough to win a decent clip in online cashgames at midstakes yourself. youre living proof of the adage "those who can, do. those who can't, teach". tho id love for you to prove me wrong with results over the next couple months, if you can

This is an inordinate amount of money to charge midstakes players for 2hrs of coaching a month after the live session

On November 21 2009 12:20 EvilSky wrote: since when myth cant beat midstakes online? when did that happen?

+1 i really dont know much about people here who have a mirrion post but i was pretty sure myth was crushing 5/10 or something

myth playing 5/10 or above = -.- playing on his account

-no public outings plz

PTR graph plz just curious

On November 21 2009 12:01 Ket wrote: hate to be the one to say it but im sure im not the only person that thinks this and everyone else is just keeping quiet cause everyone likes myth but this is borderline scam. all that money for midstakes coaching from someone who cant beat midstakes online? really?

its reasonable to bring up ofc but dunno how fair this is given that he doesnt really play online that much anymore, and when he was he was a winner - looking at 20k hands on ptr over a year span cant count for much

and even if it did it wouldnt change the success rate of myths students

You get football coaching too

fayth,

i have logged less hands online in the past 18 months (in cash games) than most people log in a month. i play live, i play tournaments, i make videos, and i coach. in the 10k hands/mo or so that i play through sweating my students, we destroy the games they are playing.

ket,

tommy angelo coached both krantz and phil galfond earlier in their careers, and it's not a coincidence. he's a fantastic coach but i don't think there is any chance that he would beat games even as low as $5/10 online. he has invaluable information to offer and a great way of conveying how to be a better poker player. you dramatically underestimate both my ability to teach strategy and the total value of my self-management coaching.

jamie217,

profit-sharing deals in the coaching industry are typically conducted at around 30%. i make mine slightly lower and corner an in-between market that i basically have exclusive domain over. i charge what i charge because there is plenty of demand for it and the people who enroll in the program think it's worth it. if you were an auto manufacturer and you could charge $10k for a new car that people loved and were dying to buy, but $2k would be a more "fair" price, would you charge $2k then?

last December, straate and I stayed in the same house in las vegas for a month, and he was around the house for a week of me coaching a new student. he commented that i was probably the best coach for mid and low-stakes and has since referred friends to me for coaching.

if my students weren't succeeding through my coaching, i wouldn't be making any money from them, since they don't pay until they profit.

for the record ket, i think you have little to no understanding of all the things that stand in the way of smart people being successful in poker. from what i've known of you over the years, there are two reasons. first, you have a good natural ability to sift through a ton of variables and weigh them correctly - you can see lots of ways to look at a hand but still value the correct one. as far as i can tell, you've never been a person who spent a year being too clever for his own good, leveling himself or focusing on the wrong perspective and feeling lost and lacking confidence. second, good self-management comes naturally to you. when you play sessions, you play well and log good hands with good game selection and an all-around good life-management strategy that helps you get the most out of poker.

that's not the case for a huge majority of players, and in particular those who are coming to me for coaching, because they know they are smart enough to beat $1/2 but simply can't seem to get past some barrier holding them back from really progressing. most of what they are doing wrong comes from simple, though subtle and important mistakes. it never really occurred to them that they ought to play earlier in the day just to see if their focus is better, or that they ought to move down 2 levels from time to time just to have fun and build confidence, or that when they take shots they can be aggressive about it as long as they have a fairly small stop-loss, and so on and so on for dozens of other extremely important pieces of advice.

i teach things that my students cannot learn anywhere else, not in any video nor from any other coach that i know of. and like i said, if you want to interview them about how well they report that i play when i sweat them, you're welcome to, and you will probably get unanimously positive replies.