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LikeASet   United States. Jan 07 2012 17:21. Posts 2113
Been feeling stressed out lately because I just started training as a personal trainer level one at 24 hour fitness but it's at a location about 50min - 1hr away and the commute is killing me inside. The average income for trainers who are able to have a full schedule of clients is roughly 40k, can earn 6 figures but you'd have to work 60-80 hr weeks maintaining current client relationships and building new ones plus training the sessions you already have scheduled. So far I would have to say that I have a shitty experience with 24 hour fitness starting off as a beginner personal trainer because basically my training has been spending the first 2 days sitting at a computer over viewing orientation materials about 24 hour fitness company, their policies, how to meet/greet guests, general stuff etc, I basically felt rushed through the materials because my manager kept asking if I was done and that I couldn't print the materials out for later review (materials not available on public computers). Then the following days was basically the manager going, "OK go rack weights and go meet and greet people." The stupid thing is that I'm already expected to start offering free sessions and build clientele when they haven't even fucking told me what I'm supposed to do for each type of training package, how to guide clients through the computer when entering info and filling out question-airs, and how to handle personal training data on the computer.

So #1, I'm already expected to sell without clearly knowing what I'm selling, and #2, I haven't received any training when it comes to conducting any of the 24 hour training packages. I'm basically roaming the gym trying to find other trainers to shadow so I know how to conduct a "fitness orientation", and trying to talk people into getting interested in packages that I don't even know how they work. Basically sat my ass on a computer for 2 days, and spent the next days running around the gym learning shit from other trainers (who haven't even been training for a year at least), while the manager who hired me walks around and does his own shit.

I'm already have a nationally recognized certification (NASM), currently working on two others, I personally research articles about training and nutrition just as a hobby, and I've been training myself and with friends for almost 2 years. It's just that during the whole hiring and orientation process, they didn't give me a clue to what to expect, and what I'll be doing during the first 5 weeks of the orientation process.

It's probably the particular gym branch that I'm currently at because another branch that I want to transfer to, gave me an actual outline of the orientation process, and told me that they would feed me at least 1 new client every week so I can slowly get used to the system and running a 24 hour training business. The other branches location is actually only 12 mins away from my home and they have no bad turn-over, not like the one i'm at where no trainer has been there for more than one year. It sucks though because it's not a guarantee that I'll be able to transfer, and I already am going to tell my current manager that I have to leave because the commuting situation is not working.

I guess my current options are to quit and; try to transfer to the close 24 hour fitness gym that probably has better management, or switch to another close gym called In_shape that coordinates with an independent personal training company called "Custom built" and work back my old waiter job at the same time. The thing is that Custom built offers shitty commission rates to trainers but trainers in Custom built don't have to worry about the sales aspect of personal training. If I work for 24 hour gym close by I will have to tough it out through the stress of starting my own personal training business in which only some clients are fed to me through the gym itself, I would therefore have to go out and focus on selling and marketing for most of my client base, but the commission is significantly better when compared to Custom Built (25% vs 8%).

Training people in living a healthier lifestyle is what I want my career to be, but do I want to start off on the more stressful half sales/half training corporate chain gym? Or do I want to start off at the more stress free 10% client sales and maintenance/90% focus on training them, smaller chain gym route with less pay?

Any thoughts would be appreciated, especially from those who are in the fitness industry, sales, trying to go independent in something, etc.


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thumbz555   United States. Jan 07 2012 17:53. Posts 3281

Do you have a degree? Look into being a 'wellness coach' imo. Personal training is one of the most poorly regulated areas of health and fitness. It's very unlikely that you'll earn very much in it given that it's a classic burnout job and you're already not enjoying it.

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GoTuNk   Chile. Jan 07 2012 18:51. Posts 2860

I've always wondered this, and never felt to ask as I don't know my gyms pt's close enough and they might feel offended.
I know that any novice should be introduced into proper squat, bench and deadlift as a starting point, yet I see at commercial gym PT's talking healthy males (and all the other people) into doing "cardio" and using isolation machines, as a gym policy.
I know some pt's are retarded and actually know very little about fitness, but I've always tought that a bunch of them is aware of my previous statement and blatantly lie to clients to sell the gym's policy. Do you think this is something somewhat frequently? If so, would you do it? (as from your post it seems you will have to if you want to actually make money)


LikeASet   United States. Jan 07 2012 19:07. Posts 2113

I actually have a degree in business finance and international business. I somewhat know the reality of being a trainer although I haven't experienced it myself yet, the rejections, clients not showing up, making calls, trying to find more clients. Only the few with strong work ethics and good character making it to the comfortable living wage range (IMO 60K+) but I'm up for the challenge. I'm not asking 24 hour fitness to hold my hand but what kind of training is "OK read the employee handbook, now go meet some people" for 5 hours Monday - Saturday? And go and shadow people that only have been working as trainers for about 5weeks to 4 months? I know how to train as a novice trainer but the fitness manager (who is usually a previously promoted master trainer) should at least give at least one walk through of a good example of a 24 hour fitness orientation and the "introductory 3 pack training session."

I've met some cool trainers so far, but some branches of 24 hour fitness just give you a bad impression, or run their business like shit.


LikeASet   United States. Jan 07 2012 19:22. Posts 2113


  On January 07 2012 17:51 GoTuNk wrote:
I've always wondered this, and never felt to ask as I don't know my gyms pt's close enough and they might feel offended.
I know that any novice should be introduced into proper squat, bench and deadlift as a starting point, yet I see at commercial gym PT's talking healthy males (and all the other people) into doing "cardio" and using isolation machines, as a gym policy.
I know some pt's are retarded and actually know very little about fitness, but I've always tought that a bunch of them is aware of my previous statement and blatantly lie to clients to sell the gym's policy. Do you think this is something somewhat frequently? If so, would you do it? (as from your post it seems you will have to if you want to actually make money)




I believe good trainers will eventually introduce all the basic compound lifts to a client regardless what goal, hopefully sooner rather than later, but the reason you don't see a lot of clients doing the basic compound lifts with trainers is because they're either lazy/bad trainers, the typical client is a de-conditioned middle age person who can't stabilize themselves for shit and are also working out in a gym for the first time, or the client is doing a free session and trainer is trying to get the client comfortable in using a variety of machines.

Most clients are people who have been struggling with their goals for a long time and really lack self-confidence, so the last thing they want to do for their first few sessions is wobble in the squat rack with just the bar in front of a bunch of joe shmoes wearing ripped tank tops and women wearing booty shorts.

But yeah I see a lot of laid back sessions given by trainers, that's why only a small percentage of 24 hour fitness clients actually reach their goal. Most of it is because the trainer is not serious enough in what he/she is doing and the rest is just whatever issues the clients have with themselves.


 



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