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ynot United States. Jan 25 2012 17:44. Posts 209 | | |
So! I decided to play some hold'em in Vegas. There were no 1/2 just 1/3/, 2/5, then up to 5/10. I decided to hop into a 1/3 game trying to go strictly by the guidelines that I have been practicing with a little bit of improvisation due to actions what I see at the table.
So I sit down with 200.00$. The largest buy in was 300 but I just happened to have to 200. I watched the table for about 15 minutes before I sat down and didn't find the table being so aggressive I needed a bigger stack. Once I sit down I notice that the table is typically tight. No one being over aggressive. Raises tended to represent high cards and the few people who would call raises regardless of the amount were easily identified. There were 2 people with stacks over 300 and both of them were tight and played premium hands. As the cards start rolling I play the folding game for the first majority of the hands i receive trying to pick up on everyone else while I wait and watch.
The first playable hand I fall into were pocket 6's. I was in middle position with an unopened pot. I raise to 7. Just a small raise and a pot builder. I got about 4 callers. Not a big deal. Flop came J,K,3. I checked the flop to find a raise to 15 and two calls. I fold.
Later on I come across A,Ko. A few folds and 2 limps in front of me I decided to raise to 20 due to how many people come after me. I get a call from the small blind and folds all around. Flop comes 6,7,T rainbow. I'm not sure why but I decided to lead with a bet. The individual I was up against seemed to be a tight player and talk around the table seemed to say how they haven't seen him show a bluff. He check the flop. I raise to 25. With a few minutes of thought he reaches and decided to raise me to 75. I debated the possibilities. I assumed he limped then called my raise forgetting he was the small blind. I thought for a little while, thinking about what possible hands he could have had to call my 20. Maybe A,K - pockets of 8-J, A,Q. I feel pocket J's or Q's would incite a 3 bet pre flop but the table talk was he slow played his big hands and I haven't seen enough of him to really know for sure. Even if I was ahead in the hand i am not about to semi bluff with such little information about my opponent. A smooth call would have me praying to hit an A, or K to scare him off his queens or jacks and if he tripped up I am dead anyways. I fold.
A few hands later I find pocket 5's. I call a raise to 10 with a few other people and find the flop hideous with no 5's. Check-fold.
Later on again i look at A,Ko. Never suited which irritated me. I am in early position and open the pot with a 15 dollar raise. Folds all around until the dealer button calls me. Flop comes J,Q,3 rainbow. The person I was up against tended to play weaker hands. Like A,To - J,Qo Any Ace suited or not suited. He valued his top pairs a lot, bets medium pair hands and calls with any outs. I decided to lead out with a bet thinking I could hit any K or A and get ahead of him and I had the 10 in my back pocket. I raise to 20 to get a quick re raise to 75. I wasn't sure what to make of this play. I felt like I really had a good shot of still being ahead of him. By the hands I have watched him play and how loose he is I was betting he was dealing with a pair of jacks. Maybe 10,J or Q,10 Maybe A,J. Nothing too strong. The problem was he had me covered with about 400 chips in his stack to my now 150ish. I debated a long time with my gut telling me I am probably not as far behind at this bet is making it look. I needed to catch to pull ahead. I laid this hand down with anger in my heart. I couldn't come to call his bet hoping to hit an A,K, or 10. I doubt I could have re-raised him off his hand since he had me covered. Judging by the was he was playing he would think his Q,10 or J,10 was good enough. Maybe he had J,Q. In any case I learned not to do any continuation bets when my A,K doesn't hit. It just gets me into trouble. I could have checked and he may have only bet 20-25 which may almost merit a call from me or at least get the same information without losing my chips. I fold.
After my few hands of A,K I really went into a bad slump of cards for about 1 1/2 hours. I fold fold fold fold watch the hands play out. I notice a gentleman who joined the table was EXTREMELY loose. Playing the most ridiculous cards ever and calling with the worst hands ever and somehow winning. He would be calling 20 dollar bets that already have a few people in the pot with Q,3o and some how end up winning the hand with a pair of queens. This guy was terrible. I watched as he showed down the worst hands ever. I wasn't able to make a move due to not getting any cards. I couldn't even limp with the hands I was getting. Eventually I get pocket J's on the button. Limps to all to me with about 4 people limping already. I raise to 20. The loose guy in the BB calls and every else folds. Flop comes A,4,7 rainbow. I knew this guy would play any ace and had a large range of hands. I knew that if this flop came out low with my jacks being an over pair i would take this guy for a lot of money. If I tripped up he would be too dumb to know what hit him. I raise to 15 to see what he would do. I call wouldn't surprise me but like everyone else he re-raises me. He wasn't around to see everyone else doing it so i didnt think it was a trend he picked up on. He hasn't re-raised people too much and when he had top pair he would call or lead out a bet when checked to, never re-raise. I wasn't sure what to think of it. He was about 500 deep and I was around 125. he raised to 50 without too much hesitation. I couldn't afford to see another card and playing A- anything was well in his range even shown when he was involved in a multi hundred dollar pot with A,6o. It boggled my mind. I folded to him and kicked myself as to what was happening to me. I couldn't get any luck on the flop and anytime i thought i saw weakness I was re-raised. Maybe I shouldn't have been betting the flops with my over cards or trying to bet into weak players.
All in all my experience was so-so. I wasn't able to spend as much time in the room as had hoped for but the small amount of time I had found weaker players than my local 1/2 games in Louisiana. I wish I had more time to sit and crush these super loose and crazy players. I wanted so badly to catch a flop vs the loose players. I had the pleasure of holding my last hour and a half with no hand to even raise pre flop. Maybe limp but I am not about to play shit hands because the rest of the table is. I had a lot of fun and look forward to continue the coaching I am receiving and kick ass in my local 1/2 tables.
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LikeASet United States. Jan 25 2012 18:10. Posts 2113 | | |
TL DR, but I played 1/2 - 1/3 in vegas and dropped 800$ to the most clueless players fruk |
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Jumping into a 1/3 game is a good way to get used to playing live poker. It'll force you to tighten up your starting hand requirements, because you arent allowed to buy in deep. Sounds like you had a typical "rough" session. Keep studying your opponents, and play as well as you can. The results will come. Gl |
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also don't get frustrated when ur dealt AK |
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ynot United States. Jan 25 2012 21:00. Posts 209 | | |
It's not that I got frustrated for being dealt A/K, it was how it kept panning out for me. A re-raise on the flop almost every time. Bad flops for A,K. I understand it is not about what is in your hand but your individual player profile that you should observe but all the signs lead to a fold each time. It sucked. |
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NewbSaibot United States. Jan 25 2012 22:38. Posts 4946 | | |
Been there done that, every premium hand gets gayed by the worst flops, every medium hand fails to connect, every draw misses, meanwhile you see them building their stacks vs each other with complete trash. Just remember it isnt online, so your volume is just much much less. You probably played the equivalent of a 30 minute session online, which is pretty easy to run card dead for. |
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egood United States. Jan 26 2012 00:07. Posts 1883 | | |
This is why I hate live poker and won't play again until theres online games back in the US. You just fold fold fold, get 1 playable hand in an hour. Then you get c/r on EVERY FUCKING FLOP, and fold 5 times, then on the 6th time you think you're getting exploited so you shove and you're like drawing to 4 outs. fuck live poker -_-;. |
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Luckb0xx Germany. Jan 26 2012 09:45. Posts 2069 | | |
learn the difference between bet and raise^^
also, get some premium hands to showdown next time or do a move yourself instead of writing so much about hands where you basically just cbet/folded :o
just my 2 cents
gl in future sessions! |
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ynot United States. Jan 27 2012 15:33. Posts 209 | | |
| | On January 26 2012 08:45 Luckb0xx wrote:
learn the difference between bet and raise^^
also, get some premium hands to showdown next time or do a move yourself instead of writing so much about hands where you basically just cbet/folded :o
just my 2 cents
gl in future sessions! |
What do you mean, "get some premium hands to showdown"? Do a move myself? nothing dictated that shoving all-in was the correct move. Seemed a bit too risky and doing so with the information that i have gathered seemed to be foolish. I didn't feel i could have gotten them off the hands specially since i was covered chip wise. I like to show hands i had questions with or had tough times with to get outside opinions. I don't like talking about easy hands I win since they are insignificant. |
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K40Cheddar United States. Jan 27 2012 23:17. Posts 2202 | | |
Problem is the volume your playing is about 10-50x less per hour depending on how many tables you can play online |
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el_tilon Canada. Jan 28 2012 23:28. Posts 296 | | |
you need to play more loose at live tables. |
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