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What casino, and what's the format for your 5/10 game? I've recently started to play the 5/10 regularly at commerce (500 to 1500 buy in) and over 12 sessions and ~70 hours I'm doing a little over 100/hr. Obviously very small sample size but I wouldn't be surprised if $100/hr+ was easily attainable for most good online players that switch over to live (I'm also pretty horrible live, and 1 year rusty with poker).

I'm very interested in this sort of live data as well, so thanks for posting.

edit: Also if you don't mind, how long are your sessions usually and how often/week do you go? I assume the hours you mention in the first paragraph are ALL live?

another question - what kind of bankroll management do you use for your live games? do you ever play lower than 5/10 or higher? if there was a really good 10/20 game would you jump in?

also, maybe i missed it, but it seems like you are putting in 40 or less hours per week playing, is that accurate?

Nice life man, $75/hr isn't so bad y'know =p

glgl

steering wheel appears to be on the wrong side dude

On March 19 2012 18:50 PanoRaMa wrote: What casino, and what's the format for your 5/10 game? I've recently started to play the 5/10 regularly at commerce (500 to 1500 buy in) and over 12 sessions and ~70 hours I'm doing a little over 100/hr. Obviously very small sample size but I wouldn't be surprised if $100/hr+ was easily attainable for most good online players that switch over to live (I'm also pretty horrible live, and 1 year rusty with poker). I'm very interested in this sort of live data as well, so thanks for posting. edit: Also if you don't mind, how long are your sessions usually and how often/week do you go? I assume the hours you mention in the first paragraph are ALL live?

About half of my hours have been at the Bellagio this year ~200 which is a 1500max buyin 5/10. The rest are spread around between the Wynn and Aria where I usually buy in for 2k. I think I would agree with you about a higher hourly at commerce as the few times I've played there the games were really easy and you could probably hit 120 regulary but the rake is pretty awful and I might be wrong as I'm sure it kills you compared to the time games in Vegas.

My average session length is 6.76 hours and I play 5 days a week, exclusively live play.

On March 19 2012 19:10 chris wrote: another question - what kind of bankroll management do you use for your live games? do you ever play lower than 5/10 or higher? if there was a really good 10/20 game would you jump in? also, maybe i missed it, but it seems like you are putting in 40 or less hours per week playing, is that accurate?

BR management I try to be pretty cautious since I can't afford to not play and I want to be able to make the right play without thinking about money. All my hours are at 5/10. I've played 10/20 twice this year but sold action both times and am about even between the two short sessions as I was just waiting for 5/10 to open up. If I run really great for the next couple months I will probably take a couple small shots during the summer, but I think the best move for "shot-taking" is to just play in an uncapped 5/10 and buy in for more money. It's not like online where you're only gonna see nut vs 2nd nut for giant pots. I saw a 38k pot at 5/10 earlier this year and the hand got all in on the turn, 88 vs something that called an all in and mucked on QJ84 with a bdfd that I guess he could've bet/called. Idk though it was some degen fish. And once in a while you get whales that just plop 20k down and ship it in like it's play money.

As for the hours, January I didn't have as much time as I wanted and I didn't manage it effectively so I was playing very little. February I got in 180 hours (45 hrs/wk) and so far this month I'm right at 40 hours per week while still taking 2 days off per week to balance home life/poker. (And the hours played doesn't take into account that it's a 20min drive each way to the casino + any wait time for my seat to open up)

really enjoy your updates, ty

best of luck with poker and ur family brah

Very interesting to have a live perspective, do you know how often games run above 10/20? also, what would you say the fish to decent player ratio is at 5/10 10/20?

On March 20 2012 06:29 DaEm0niCuS wrote: Very interesting to have a live perspective, do you know how often games run above 10/20? also, what would you say the fish to decent player ratio is at 5/10 10/20?

The 10/20 runs every day at bellagio but no where else really. Games above that are probably once every other weekend or something like that, although to be fair, about 25-50% of the time the 10/20 is converted to a 10/20/40 game but when that happens there is no 10/20 at all. So if you consider bigger games running when a lower game (10/20) gets taken over then about half the time you can expect a bigger game.

Fish to player is pretty random and hard to say since I don't really pay much attention to the 10/20 games these days. During the week at 5/10 it's prob like 30% fish on avg and then some bad regs and like 20% good regs. At 10/20 there are a number of bad regs who are prob losers in the game but just dont play professionally but can hold their own/prob be breakeven. Get a lot more rich whales who dust off a quick 10k-50k once in a while which is offset by the Peachy's and Tom Marchese's and other sickos and such who play the game regularly now that the internet is dead.

btw, if you were to estimate, whats 5/10 live comparable to online based on your personal experiences?
Also do you find live cash games to be tougher during WSOP or softer?

it's been a long time since I grinded any reasonable amount of online stakes for enough hands to compare it to but it's probably a lot like 5/1 and 1/2nl? like 3-4 professionals per table and everyone else fairly weak but some experience playing.

Yep, good blog.

So why dont you play online at all given the options available?