sc2 balance

If you want to look at overall tournament victories as a determination of which race is supposedly "better" then T > Z > P would likely make sense as protoss currently has the least amount of tournament victories in major appearances worldwide.

There was a point where i felt like TvP was op as hell for the terran due to 1-1-1ing everyone but with the major buffs to protoss I think that allowed the race to defend itself better with more cost efficient upgrades. A lot of it is metagame stuff as well. Protoss started doing a lot better at high level once people stopped two base all-ing and realized that 3 base macro based late game builds are amazing, since protoss generally has the strongest 200/200 composition (my opinion). Not saying you can't all in or anything but I always felt protoss was best late game. Additionally, there was a recent buff to queens for zerg that has increased creep spreading speed due to more queens being produced which I feel has greatly aided zerg in ZvT.

I think balance can be shown in more of the distribution of races in the upper echelon of a tournament vs pure winners. If you look at 2012 season 2 GSL, the top 8 consisted of 5 protoss, 3 terran and 0 zerg. Does that mean zerg is underpowered? Not necessarily. MLG spring championship top 8 consisted of 3 protoss, 3 terran, and 2 zerg players where the eventual winner was a zerg player (DongRaeGu). Personally, I feel that most international tournaments have a pretty balanced distribution of races and although one race may not win as much I feel that it's not cause the race is bad but the players who win the tournaments are just beasts. The game seems to go in phases. There was a point in GSL last year where about 5/8 of code S was all terran players but then more protoss and zerg players started figuring things out and moved in (2012 Season 3 GSL (10,13,9 = P,T,Z) which is relatively balanced with a slight skew on terran).

I think TvP is probably the most balanced because the battles imo are more skill based whereas matchups with zerg seem to be more based on trading with the opponent cost efficiently. I don't feel like a 200/200 ZvP battle is favorable at all for zerg given proper compositions and ZvT is more about the zerg catching the terran off guard rather than a straight up fight.

Overall, Starcraft is a pretty complex game and I feel that it's pretty balanced. What I like about the game is that people will always come up with new ideas to exploit certain strategies and I think with time and shift in the metagame it will eventually balance out completely. Keep in mind that brood war has had over a decade to balance out where SC II is only in its 2nd to 3rd year.

P.S
- MC only won 2 GSLs and I don't believe another protoss has won one
- Mvp now has 4 GSLs

z>p>t

Medivacs are imbalanced as fuck I mean drop and healing wtf... I always get multi pronged to buggery hate playing against terran.
Against protoss its easier but I always die to 2 base all in even though I know it's coming.

anyone who is below grandmaster has no right to discuss balance questions

Remove marauder 8D thanks

On June 17 2012 06:35 dnagardi wrote: anyone who is below grandmaster has no right to discuss balance questions

Sadly a lot of masters are better than low ranked grandmaster ; _; sorry to pop ur bubble noobsauce

pop corn

Maps are lame!Seriously wtf how can a toss survive in condemned ridge

On June 17 2012 08:27 Sennpu wrote: Show nested quote + On June 17 2012 06:35 dnagardi wrote: anyone who is below grandmaster has no right to discuss balance questions Sadly a lot of masters are better than low ranked grandmaster ; _; sorry to pop ur bubble noobsauce

i see u got my point

Zerg is pretty broken TvZ right now, post-patch winrate TvZ is literally something like 35%.....

That's the only real problem.

I feel right now Z > T = P

Although TvP I feel is balanced in a really odd way where T will win the game an extremely high % during the timing where medivacs pop to offset a higher winrate for P in later stages

Z is stupid post Queen buff