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NewbSaibot   United States. Jun 21 2012 11:44. Posts 4946
Playing in my usual 1/2 live game last night, and someone made a startling comment while chatting. He referred to this game as a 2/5 game. For some reason I was surprised to hear this, I guess because it meant he was actually thinking about the game objectively. But it's true, with the average preflop raise being $17 and the average pot on the flop $75, for all intents and purposes this is a 2/5 game. With this in mind, it meant I could reduce his hand strength in spots to what would be more typical of a 2/5 game.

You see I've normally been too afraid to do something like 3bet JJ or AQs because I figured there's no way anybody is calling a $60 raise in a 1/2 game without having a decent hand. It just always seemed like a RIO situation. I also pitch a lot of suited connectors for the same reason. I figured fish overbet like this preflop to protect their hands, and that I'll never have the odds to call.

NOPE.

As soon as I said "fuck it, lets pretend like we're half stacking 2/5" the chips started rolling in. I was seeing so many QJo and JTo type hands turned over in 3bet pots where I made it $60+ it was silly. Their ranges handnt adjusted at all! I'm not sure why so many 1/2 games play like this, but it sure gave me a lot of newfound confidence postflop.

What's even more bizarre is that I was invited to a 2/5 game I had never played at, and recognized many familiar faces. In this game, it played like 2/5. I was afraid people would be opening to $50 utg and stuff, but the avg preflop raise was $15-$20 and everyone played accordingly. So why are these 1/2 games playing like a 2/5 game? I have no idea, I guess they just mutated this way after fish progressively increasing their opening raise size to account for general preflop looseness.

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Xervean   United States. Jun 21 2012 14:07. Posts 682

I've noticed this as well especially at the game I play here in Oklahoma. The 1/2 is a 300$ max buy-in and everyone buys in with red chips so it plays a lot bigger because people think in terms of chips and not pot size or big blinds. Also it is worth noting that the 2/5 game which is actually uncapped plays like a 5/10 game.


Mariuslol   Norway. Jun 21 2012 14:14. Posts 4742


Not played that much 2/5 live, but when I did it was as you describe 1/2, but for 2/5 lol.

if 4-5 limpers, I'd be 45 iso, 2 callers, pot 150 +, take it from there kinda scenario.


collegesucks   United States. Jun 21 2012 15:28. Posts 5780

ive made it 80 straight utg before and got a caller xD. people kept calling pre so i kept raising and raising the bar.

i usually make it 20-30 to go preflop at my 1/2 games.seems to work out fine. but i'm also sitting with anywhere from 500 to 1k+ vs similar stacks.


 



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