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tuna333 Czech Republic. Aug 04 2012 06:19. Posts 128

hey wobbly thx again for playing micros - have almost 1500 hands w/ you, so a lot of study material

anyway to the session: It was actually kinda tough for me to play right now, because I didnt play poker last 2 months - I started week ago and was playing 2 (max 3 tables, max session was 95mins), just to get back into it, trying to get better, etc. But when I saw you are playing this low I wanted to play w/ you as much as I can. So I ended 6 tabling for 4 hours, which is definetly in my top10 longest sessions in my life + my standard is 4 tabling. I had pretty terrible stats, which is probably not suprise, because of how tired I was at the end (my standard stats in bracket)

VPIP 24.2 (26.9)
PFR 17.6 (21)
3bet 5.1 (6.2)
WTSD 19.3 (25.4)
W$SD 47.4 (51)
WWSF 40.6 (44.9)
Flop Agg 27.9 (41)

session graph:

I have losing redline and 7.16bb/100 in last 100k hands on 25NL/50NL and 50NL is my current limit. Im pretty happy w/ my play in 1st half, but then I started to be tired and played just because I wanted to have some hands w/ you. This is pretty obvious at the end of the graph - I started to be pretty passive. And after 2/3 of the session I started to have a really bad feeling, that you are overplaying me pretty badly. Anyway it was great experience

Hands:

http://weaktight.com/4894485

I just called pre because you were folding so much to 4bets (I 4bet you twice - both bluffs) + playability + position. On flop I beat all your bluffs + you will bluff cards, which hit me + some eq vs your value range. Turn is great card for me because you will value bet worse too - I just called to let your bluffs in. Now Im insta calling any river

http://weaktight.com/4894487

In this hand I maybe leveled myself, but I would never do this vs anyone on 50NL w/o reads. I called t and r, because you werent calling that much form blinds, so not much 6x in your range + I thought there is good chance you can turn something like 77, 88, some 9x into bluff, or do this w/ some straight or flush draws. Because I wouldnt cbet 6x, wouldnt open 96o vs you, so I will have only 10 combos (QQ, 99, 66, 96s, Q6s) I can easily stack off with and if you believed I would fold Qx, etc., which you very easily could, then I will fold massive % of my tun brl range

http://weaktight.com/4894488

Here I really dont know what to do. I shipped, because if I call it will be obv for both of us that my range is mostly Qx and you set up stacks for nice river shove. And Im pretty sure, that on the river I would be capable of making much bigger mistake, than you, so this is why I shoved. I would shove here JTs, AcTc, AcJc, KcTc, KcJc, so I can have some bluffs too and you have 31% to call so you can call me w/ worse. Another option is to call and c/f river - calling turn is definitely ev+, c/f r is ev 0 and just take the pot, when you decide to give up w/ bluffs - although this is very exploitable it protects me from making mistake and we wont be playing against each other soon, but Im still not sure

http://weaktight.com/4894489

This hand is from later part of the session and I have absolutely no idea, what I was doing on river. On the turn you both have pretty capped ranges and I dont, so decided to bluff. On the river 7x is top of your range and I should never expect you to fold it, so I should bet like 7.5$ w/ all my bluffs to let you fold weak part of your range and I should overbet here only w/ value hands

http://weaktight.com/4894491

Lol at this hand. On the river I was confused (as I told you), because I thought you wouldnt bet this much w/ K on the turn (this assumption was probably totally wrong), so I thought you were polarized and then on the river when you bet small I was like "he cant never expect me to raise here" (I would raise only A7s, but good chance I would raise this hand earlier and A5s), so you are missing so much value -> you wouldnt value bet like that, but on the other side I tought you will not bluff like that. lol. AA made sense. nh

http://weaktight.com/4894492

Another tough hand, altough I think your range is weighted towards value, but then again you need me to fold little less than 50% of my flop c/c range and if Im folding this, then you are printing money. Around this time I started to be tired and had that feeling that you are overplaying me

http://weaktight.com/4894495

In this hand I would probably check some Ax to strengthen my checking range and would bluff and brl here a lot, so this is probably fine

http://weaktight.com/4894497

This is probably fine too + I have As

http://weaktight.com/4894500

http://weaktight.com/4894501

Probably ok too, maybe turn is little bit close

http://weaktight.com/4894684

This is on of the latest hand in session and I misplayed this pretty badly. But side note first: In later part of the session (and this is how I would describe that "bad feeling that you are overplaying me"

. You started to use really big sizings vs me to polarize your range -> and I was feeling like "how can I bluffcatch vs high stakes guy, knowing you will bluff w/ ok frequencies, so I will never make money by bluffcatching you". So this force me either to make hands, which will beat at least some part of your value range (LOL) or start to bluff you. But I was so tired to make some big bluffs and I think you know all of this and this is the reason of the overplay, right??
To the hand: I called flop to let fish in + let you bluff + I thought you will not pay me (!!!). On the turn again big sizing and again I beat nothing of your value range, but here I should use these awesome blockers and turn this hand into bluff and shove. If I would do this I believe you would easily fold more than 90% of your brl range. I would rep pretty thin, but even 4x would be bluffcather and I think you would give me credit and fold maybe even 4x
!!! = this is exactly, why I should started turning hands into bluffs, but me tired = passive

http://weaktight.com/4894503

When I checked the river I expected you to check here almost always, so didnt expect you would bet. I decided to raise, because as played its pretty obv, that I would bet river w/ whole air part of my range, so my checking range is basically SDV+. This was around 1/3 of session, so you knew Im not random idiot and I thought there is good chance you would give me credit, because I easily couldnt have air and I thought you would fold everything. This is maybe optimistic and this is probably the only 1 hand, where I would like to know, what you had

http://weaktight.com/4894505

This is from early part of session. W/ no history, just from balance perspective - this is well played, right??

http://weaktight.com/4894506

Funny hand for me, again from early part of session. I wanted to 4bet so much (thought its good spot + blocker + lot of respect) and only reason, why I didnt do it was your sizing. From start you were using smaller sizing and if you 3bet on 5 or 5.25 max, I would 4bet

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Last edit: 04/08/2012 06:22

NewbSaibot United States. Aug 04 2012 21:26. Posts 4946

Does wobbly appear to be taking this seriously? I'm just curious if he's splashing around at lower limits drunk, or if there is some propbet or other personal reason he has decided to play NL50.

bye now

tuna333 Czech Republic. Aug 05 2012 03:38. Posts 128

On August 04 2012 20:26 NewbSaibot wrote:
Does wobbly appear to be taking this seriously? I'm just curious if he's splashing around at lower limits drunk, or if there is some propbet or other personal reason he has decided to play NL50.

He said he was trying to help some friends (dont know how, didnt saw him chatting w/ other players). Im reviewing some of his hands right now and I think he took that seriously (IMO), maybe someone was watching his game or w/e. Altough he had some crazy stats, he wasnt splashing around (he has winning red and blue line and is up 127$ in my sapmple). I can post his graph or some of his stats, if anyone is curious, how sick stats people can have and still crushing 50NL

Last edit: 05/08/2012 03:39

wobbly_au Australia. Aug 05 2012 10:10. Posts 6540

The Last Laugh.

wobbly_au Australia. Aug 05 2012 10:16. Posts 6540

Its kinda hard to find the exact corresponding hand to what you had... how about you PM me your email and i'll attach my hands for the session?

What you might want to look at to improve is, the vs player report tab..

I won too many non showdown pots vs you. (and other players too) But you were definately giving up too much (by either calling flop or turn and NOT river or just folding) for you to be making $$ vs me. Sometimes its important for you to fold out my semi bluffing range which has very good equity vs your made hands.

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tuna333 Czech Republic. Aug 05 2012 12:06. Posts 128

On August 05 2012 09:16 wobbly_au wrote:
Its kinda hard to find the exact corresponding hand to what you had... how about you PM me your email and i'll attach my hands for the session?

What you might want to look at to improve is, the vs player report tab..

I won too many non showdown pots vs you. (and other players too) But you were definately giving up too much (by either calling flop or turn and NOT river or just folding) for you to be making $$ vs me. Sometimes its important for you to fold out my semi bluffing range which has very good equity vs your made hands.

you are right. i think my biggest problem was that i was little overexcited and wanted to play as much hands w/ you (not trash - but was calling you little bit lighter) + i have never played w/ someone as good as you, so didnt realize, how much better you are. and absolute killer was that i played more tables and for much more time, that i could handle. will send you my email

wobbly_au Australia. Aug 06 2012 01:53. Posts 6540

hands sent~ enjoy

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