Mariuslol   Norway. Aug 13 2012 18:17. Posts 4742
Several people who I respect and look up to have been telling me that I've been a bit of a pussy lately, for not giving PLO a shot!!(A couple have just called me that for no apparent reason as well, but that's not related to this post).
We can't have that, so now I've decied to give PLO a shot lol!! I think MiPwnYa pushed me over the edge, let me quote him: + Show Spoiler +
Why don't u give poker a try ? You seem to be able to understand concepts and reason on them fairly well, and you obv have time to spend so give the goddam game a try : ) + You're quite handsome.
The first month, Juli was just here and there. I just spent maybe 10% of my time on it, I started looking at hands, watched through the PLO episodes of Poker After Dark.
I think first hand of PLO I ever played was late Juni, so kinda fresh over all, and knew "nothing". Had to have the two card thingy explained over and over lol. But I used to beat 100nl when I was living out of poker 2-3 years ago. So I know "normal" poker quite well.
Anyhow, I felt it was a cool idea to make a PLO Diary, a weekly one. So I did that, I started it last Sunday, or Monday, not sure, think it was the 6th. So the scribblings from my Diary is for the entire week that has just passed.
It's not marked by days or anything, but when I think of stuff, study something, or have questions to myself or hands I'm proud of or felt I played terrible, I post them in the diary, sometimes lol.
I haven't posted any hands on the LP forum, don't want to clog up the site with Microstakes hands.
I 4 Table.
Here's for August so far, I +' all the minutes and divided by 60, 39 hours or so + Show Spoiler +
When I write, I seem to ask a lot of questions, I do that about pretty much everything lol. If you feel you've got a solid answer, tip, idea or you think you can help me in any of the questions you find in the diary, don't be shy. Copy the question, and then write your answer underneath. (Maybe be all cool like and make the questionz all like this, tilted to the side a little.But that's entirely optional xD
Maybe use that imigur imigur site for graph + stats
- Watched again
- Watched Durrr vs Ziigmund
- Talked poker with Erling for 30 minutes.
How do you make the popup window on hud bigger? When you hold over stats???
can you call with pretty bad double suited hand vs an open from a shortstack?
BP = Board Paired
FC = Flush Complete
SC = Straight Complete
- Watched Durrr vs Ziigmund
- Hmm, must be a good note to have on people when you think they rarely, if ever bluff. And a note when you think they are very capable of bluffing.
- LoL, I need to turn off chat, I can't help but get excited and want to fuel when people get mad, write in caps, or want to share a piece of their mind... Too much fun lol
- Watched
Ok, remember, DOn'T GO PLAYING ALL STUPID, and get too much affected by it, what I was looking for was good ways to play hands they hit, not that leveling shit lol
There seem to be 67 Phil Galfond Video's!!
25 Heads up
42 Not heads up (assuming 6max)
- Watched One of the first Small Stakes Phil Galfond vods, Jman socal HH Review
- Be careful with non nut flushes multi way, even when small bets and it looks like ur getting great odds
- Can it be good to fire, bluff on paired turns? Espesciall considering so often people are on F draws or Straight draws, and they just "omg fuck" when it pairs? Hum.....
OMG, so proud of my thought process in this hand yay
http://www.pokerhand.org/?6439120
I felt like it was a good spot to lead out, I had 9 outs + probably 4 good ones, plenty.
When I got a caller and a raise, I felt the first caller is on something that doesn't want to get it in now, and the guy who raised either have a sick draw or a set.
So after tanking I called, and I was hoping the other guy would call. He did.
When I hit the Flush, I felt he might fold if I shoved, and I didn't want to bet really small, have him call once, then fold if/when his warp missed. Since I had Flush, I felt it was more likely he had a hand like 2567ish, something like that lol, or two pair.
Or maybe a Flush, then he'd just shove and do it for me, so I checked, he quickly checked.
Now hoping on the river he will be more likely to call with a straight, since I checked the turn, or that he had a Flush, and I shove here instead.
MAYBE this is all super standard, and lolish, but I felt clever and smart for thinking like this lol.
What do you do vs shortstacks they 3b, and you've got like 345K double suit in pos, u call, stack flop, or fold? a little unsure
OMG, this session I just broke 500, omg omg, To think at once point I was under 200 Fuck yeah!! (Pardon my french).
This wasn't ment to be poker related, was just relaxing, and I came over this.
It's about Risk Intelligence, and pretty cool. Worth a watch I'd say!!
Hmm, I keep min opening hu when its vs ppl who buy in for 30bb, i wonder if that's smart, or if I should pot, maybe min with medium and crap hands and pot with good ones?
- Easier to determine someone's hand when hey make big calls xD
Hmm, is there any really good Blogs, that's kinda new and fresh, and kinda frequently updated by any good PLO players, 6max, mid stakes or a little higher? Plx pm or let me know if u know of any <3
Hmm, should you always limp if you see it can be multi way if u have crap hand but uve got a suited Ace?
How shitty can you call oop HU? What's the 50% middle hand in plo?
Owh, I like this play http://www.pokerhand.org/?6440184 YAy, I felt all cool n stuff, he flahed Top set and folded, which I felt he had yay. Felt all longple like...
Hmm after this sessions, I see I'm 41% vpip, but every table starts HU, so it's a bit off, I wonder where you can fix so you can see what your stats are when it's 5-6 people. And I wonder how much is seen as "ah, ok, that's a tight annoying bastard (but not too tight)".
- Seems like most of the bad players call with set when flush or a sc, and then tries to lead out weak xD
- Hmm, what do I do with bad double suited hands UTG and MP?? Open, Limp, FOLD?
- Seems often when we make a statement, write something, we "only" look for affirmations to back up our own claims.
In poker, maybe that means if you get annoyed or write "fucking fish", it's MUCH harder to realize, wait a minute, he might be kinda good lol. Or more subtle "Massive fish" and he's more timid, weak passiv buy in for half.
I felt it was a really good fold. My reasoning was one of them guys in there was really timid and passive, and for him to show so much strength made me wary. I felt that my J outs wern't there, since someone already had a low straight, or something. And that I might be drawing dead to the flush also. So felt it was a spot where noobs get it in, and I was being awesome and did a cool fold.
- Wonder what a good ritual is before you sit down n play, things to help u play ur A game
- Hmm, 10nl, maybe it's MUCH better to be REALLY tight, cuz of the rake, makes a lot of sense in my head atm.
- Hmm, a lot of bad regulars have a cool tell on the turn, it's usually pot or close to pot, if they get a straight, or something rly strong, or need to protect a set.
But when it's two pair, or a little something somehing, it's more in order like half pot to 2/3, and on a lot of rivers, a big bet gets them to fold two pair I think. I thought of this after this hand http://www.pokerhand.org/?6440574 where it felt I was beat, and that a small bet would be called off, but a large one would make him fold two pair. He tanked for 9 sec or so, then folded.
Ideas for some WEAPONs in my arsenal, from Eyespawn:
3-bet light mot en reg[2:59:01 PM] Erling Hartviksen: hvis du ikke har 3-betta han på lang tid (tight image)
[2:59:06 PM] Erling Hartviksen: og se om han gir deg sjukt med cred
2nd one: kan jo være å 3-bette light i pos
[2:59:46 PM] Erling Hartviksen: og se om han er weak mot det
http://www.pokerhand.org/?6441477
Guy is 31/3 over 320 hands, low AG 1.2 And I saw no stats for Raising flop, it just felt like a KKxx, which goes well with what he opens with, might be seeing ghosts.
But I tried to pay attention to the turn bet, and it came really really fast, I waited like 8 sec before I checked it to him, and my plan was to try and get a feel for it on the turn.
Ajaj, something felt off this sessions. Felt I started to play several hands badly. I'll post the ones I felt I sucked the most!! http://www.pokerhand.org/?6441567
141 sample size his first 3b, and I assumed AAxx, thought for some time, and decided to call, re evaluate turn, a bit annoying, cuz now I thought he might have two pair, and I was thinking, counting my outs, and I gave myself 15 outs, and I called.
Felt a bit silly when I saw his hand T_T 22/13 regular, but high aggression factor, and very low C bet, should have spoted the C bet earlier, maybe I'd have swayed me to fold flop.
When I get raised like that I instantly thought, shit, top straight?
Then I started thinking, very high aggression on the guy, 65/46 Vpip n opnr as well. 7,9 AF, hated it, almost timed out, but decided to pretend he was a spaz and had Two pair or a set, and I'd call the river if it didn't pair or hit T or J or pairs.
Blerk
We've been playing HU for a bit, I Felt he was bad, I guess that's not much of a read.
His turn bet made me feel he was quite weak, like some shit or something.
Then a check, I felt he checks to call vs a small bet, so I decided to try and make it look like a value bet, a straight, top two pair, set or something.
Maybe not try and bluff so much on these stakes, or just wrong oponent to pull it on.
Ok, last one, but I played really sucky this session, dropped lots of buy ins lol http://www.pokerhand.org/?6441581
When fire turn and he calls, I feel he ain't got the jack, since the jack would probably raise here, can be a set, but doesn't feel like it. He did the normal fish tell, wait long then bet, but I talked myself into calling. Not sure what I'd beat, just felt weird, what could call the turn I was thinking about, it was like he was saying he had a Jack or a set or quads, I didn't buy it. If he had two pairs on the flop, he'd surely fold on that turn. So didn't think it could be a boated 677
Usj, bad day, played some NL as well, was teaching my brother, and after he went, I kept playing for some hours. Bleh, went bad there as well
Down 10bi today!!
I think when I start to do some good bluffs, some good calls. I suddenly start seeing places to do more of it, or call more, and it can quickly turn from being awesome to being spewy. Not 100%, maybe a little results oriented lol.
- Hmm what about only writing note if you know how to extract money from whatever leak?
Our dad was going on holliday for a week, and we thought I'd be an amazing idea to surprise him with a Birthday gift.
The idea was to scrub down all his doors, then paint them with 3 coats (not sure why 3, but that's what people seem to have their mind set on). So me, my brother and sister payed for paint and thingy to paint with.
We estimated I'd maybe take a few hours lol, I went there 4 times this week, and last time I was there for 8 hours straight. So in total maybe 60 hours combined lol. (Was 9 doors, and one super difficult one, with glass n crap in it).
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Mariuslol   Norway. Aug 13 2012 18:33. Posts 4742
I think I know my biggest leak.
I seem to spend more time thinking about stuff, and reading about them, or watching, rather than doing.
Yea, I "heard" somewhere that 10% study, 90% play, or something up there, maybe 80% play was pretty nice. I seem to have it closer to 50/50 lol
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DustySwedeDude   Sweden. Aug 14 2012 02:17. Posts 8623
PLO is fun. Don't call vs shorties with ds-crap.
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Mariuslol   Norway. Aug 14 2012 05:55. Posts 4742
Ok, got it, thankz!! Rly unsure, since ppl keep saying ur 33%, 2:1 n stuff like that lol
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morph1   Sierra Leone. Aug 14 2012 06:33. Posts 2352
leatherass in his books advices 80% play, 20% study ... I belive
Always Look On The Bright Side of Life
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MiPwnYa   Brasil. Aug 14 2012 10:28. Posts 5230
way to go
: )
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YouGoTGoT   United States. Aug 14 2012 13:03. Posts 1118
On August 14 2012 01:17 DustySwedeDude wrote:
PLO is fun. Don't call vs shorties with ds-crap.
Ya i only got thru the first 6 sentences too.
I think you should post hands, the site is already filled with micro crap so no harm there.
YA I TALK SHIT, GOTTA DEFECATE TO CONVERSATE
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MiPwnYa   Brasil. Aug 14 2012 13:16. Posts 5230