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donjuako   Benin. Oct 08 2012 21:53. Posts 211
I was invited to an auction where some developed lotes are going to be auction at the highest bidder.
I have some extra cash on the saving account which is not earning anything, and I was waiting for a good opportunity to invest in something, I dont need it to yield returns fast as I act today as if I did not had the cash.

some information on the lot on the property appraisal website is: the price history

HistoryYear History Value By Property Use Land Just Value Land Class Value Misc Value Bldg Value CAMA Value Taxes
2012 C 0000 $7,410 $0 $0 $0 $7,410 $136.63
2011 C 0000 $7,670 $0 $0 $0 $7,670 $140.71
2010 C 0000 $12,780 $0 $0 $0 $12,780 $223.91
2009 C 0000 $19,170 $0 $0 $0 $19,170 $314.21
2008 C 0000 $28,120 $0 $0 $0 $28,120 $431.77
2007 C 0000 $36,260 $0 $0 $0 $36,260 $560.31
2006 C 0000 $30,020 $0 $0 $0 $30,020 $473.19
2005 C 0000 $15,010 $0 $0 $0 $15,010 $265.92

as you can see in 2007 it reached its peak of 36k when the housing boom, today its worth 7.4k.

I was thinking if I could buy it for 5k or less its a good investment? the lot has utilities and sewer and cable. its ready for a house to be built on.

its located in a nice sub division. a house in this subdivision is going for: $79,620.

keep in mind there is HOA fees. $60 a month or $720 a year. taxes 136 a year.

so my raw investment will cost me 5k + $890 a year. so i figure in 5 years i would have spent 9450 and I expect the price of it to be 10k maybe a little more if mitt r wins.
what do you guys think?


any help or input is greatly appriciate it


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TheTrees   United States. Oct 08 2012 22:07. Posts 1592

Don't think it's a very wise investment unless you have a lot of capital. You're relying on a lot of factors


donjuako   Benin. Oct 08 2012 22:28. Posts 211

really? even if I could by them for 4k-5k?

this would represent maybe 20%-25% of my total liquid cash at the moment.

more info: before this auction the bank was selling this properties at $9,900 each


TheTrees   United States. Oct 08 2012 23:00. Posts 1592

God only knows where land values will be in 5+ years. I wouldn't do it for 20-25% of my liquid cash, I'd rather pump that money into an IRA


Highcard   Canada. Oct 09 2012 00:04. Posts 5428

paying an HOA on vanila land is absurd. Not worth buying unless you plan on building as to flip.

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qwerty67890   New Zealand. Oct 09 2012 01:39. Posts 14026

brb paying nearly $1k/year in fees on my $5k investment which has been steadily declining in value for the last 5 years


DustySwedeDude   Sweden. Oct 09 2012 05:10. Posts 8623

I think it's dumb with fee's and such. While it's not good to sit around with USDs in the bank when your FED prints money like crazy and land is something I'd generally recommend that's probably the wrong kind of land. Unless your economy turns around in a big way, who on earth will build houses? I know the FED a shitton of MBS's or whatever they're called each month, but land in the US for those prices is not as much an investment as a speculation that a bigger fool will buy them slightly higher.

If you actually think the economy will turn around and such, buy some kind of Canadian stocks or whatever, preferably a few that will actually pay you some money for owning it each year. Less risk, no paying 720/year etc.


Funktion   Australia. Oct 09 2012 09:55. Posts 1638

For starters I don't get how $720 + $136 = $890. Also the taxes from 2005 to 2012 have increased from 1.77% to 1.84%. So anyway you look at it I guarantee your investment over your seemingly arbitrary 5 year period won't be $9450. HOA fees never increase? Unless there is some property expert from Benin (?) then no one will have an accurate idea AT ALL of the quality of that investment from the information provided.

Did the bank have these lots merely on sale for $9900? Or were they actually selling them for that price ie/ people were buying at $9900. It might not matter at all that one house is selling for $79,620 as you apparently have a sample size of one that could of been on the market for ages or been reduced multiple times etc. You give a vague $10,000 estimate if Romney wins (which despite the latest debate seems unlikely, although I'm not American or a US politic guru). You should be looking at the economy and it's health as well as any housing demand and supply figures, mortgage approval rates, clearance rates etc to get some sort of general idea where your property market is headed.

I think you have a lot more work to do before plopping down 5k (possibly).


traxamillion   United States. Oct 10 2012 00:11. Posts 10468

Play some 5/10 at the local card room


inde   Germany. Oct 10 2012 09:22. Posts 1298


  On October 09 2012 00:39 byrnesam wrote:
brb paying nearly $1k/year in fees on my $5k investment which has been steadily declining in value for the last 5 years



this just about sums it up, lol :D


Zep   United States. Oct 10 2012 14:40. Posts 2292

why not just purchase 5 - 10k in gold? seems like a much smarter gamble

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goose58   United States. Oct 12 2012 00:25. Posts 871

I watched a few Warren Buffet interviews the other day. He says that when investing, you need to have knowledge of what you are doing, knowledge of the business, and to only invest in things you are pretty sure will appreciate in value.


Take that for what it's worth.


Target-x17   Canada. Oct 13 2012 15:01. Posts 1027

79k for a house? What you planning on building a shack?

f u bw rock 

capaneo   Canada. Oct 14 2012 07:56. Posts 8465

Where is the land and what's the size?

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capaneo   Canada. Oct 14 2012 17:12. Posts 8465

Where is the land and what's the size?

In US everyone is happy as long as all the prices are rising. Unless its crude oil - Marc Faber 

 



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