Discovering Leaks

Also I got a question : How is the Total AF stat calculated by PT? Which value is high? Which value is low? How can I work with that stat?

Not really a holdem player but I've played it on the side.

Leak nr 1 not enough hands just with sheer volume you should move up. Not
really a big enough sample for some stats maybe.

You are playing very tight for 6 max. 17/14 is not enough should be 20/18 or something if you want to be tight. I didn't see the stat in there but it probably means you should open more buttons. Consider 2.5xing or min raising. Open 100-95% against tight players. Always look at your blinds before you open to determine the level of your looseness.

3bet of 6. something is ok but you could go higher. Not sure how it works at these stakes. Consider 3betting ranges according to how much they call i.e more value range KQ type hands against someone that never folds. 3bet trash against nitty players that fold a lot depending on position.

Your fold to 3bet is high maybe look to blocker 4bet bluff Ax vs some high 3
betters. But if guys are just value range 3betting at these stakes I think that used to be the case.

Playing tight could be good at those stakes though.

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When I see someone with your stat on my table, I relax. Since I know I won't get into any tough situation, or lose any money. (The only way is if I get coolered, or bad beat).

The reason is, you only c-bet when you hit or got a draw. You fold to c bet 70%, everytime you miss. You fold 85% in the blind. You're nitting it up.

NOT SAYING YOU CAN'T WIN like that. But I think micro is best for learning stuff, getting better. Improving. With that being said. Here are a few ideas and tweaks for your game.


Continue being super tight and nitty from most position. Especially Utg and MP, since we don't really earn a lot of money from those spots.

But see if you can find some more hands to open on the Button and in the Small blind, where we earn the most money.

And a good way to up your c-bet. Just c-bet more vs people who have a very high fold to c bet, and you should be food. Or fire vs weak tight, or when you can really represent a hand when raising tight from a position. (You open KJs utg, board Q25r, one of your color). Very good board to c bet if its HU. You rep a high card, very hard for someone to call. And if you get called, you can fire on any flush draw, or vs some even when you pick up a gutshot, and fold out medium pairs.


Not so much on micro, but good to practice and learn it, is to steal a lot of blinds. Especially from btn and sb. Look at their fold to steal, yours are so high, that any 2 is profitable. But you aint getting exploited at micro, but doesnt mean you cant exploit other people who are nit. When people are nit, just open sick wide and collect blinds every orbit.

When it comes to aggression, it's some formula, where they take how often you take an aggressive line compared to a passive. Most regulars are around 3AF.

So a good trick is to use aggression factor on the 3 streets. and if it's semi normal, they play kinda normal, but no one is like that. Often you'll find regs are really high on the flop, then shut down on the turn, them we can float. Vs fish, they are super passive flop and turn, then BLAM on the river. Either cus they play their hands like that, or they bluff when missed draws etc.

So you can play your hands easier. By like, betting a good hand on the flop, and you see he has really high aggression on the turn, and you check it on the turn, since u know he'll fire. It's "comfortable" to have those stats there.


So let me summarize a little, these are just small minor tweaks, which I think will improve you as player and your game.

Get your steal % up to at least 45%, I'd say 55%, but slow and steady probably best approach.

When people C bet way to much, you can call lighter.

Try getting your own C-bet up to 60%, maybe even 65%

Vs super fish, A high becomes best on most flops, so c-bet then more, for value.

Open up your game on the button, probably a little bit more on the CO as well.


Aim for stats around 20/17 to 23/19, somewhere around there. And see how that feels.

disagree we should float regs with low turn afactor. Its only a ratio of bet or raise to calling, if they cbet turn 1pct of time but cf the rest their agression factor would be infinity. Postflop are mostly useless at nl5 as you never get decent sample size v anyone.

solar just raise 100pct buttons cbet every dry flop most wet ones with some sort of equity and see what happens.

On January 18 2013 03:08 LemOn[5thF] wrote: solar just raise 100pct buttons cbet every dry flop most wet ones with some sort of equity and see what happens.

yea, try this, and spew 0 - 50% of your btn range

On January 18 2013 04:51 Mariuslol wrote: Show nested quote + On January 18 2013 03:08 LemOn[5thF] wrote: solar just raise 100pct buttons cbet every dry flop most wet ones with some sort of equity and see what happens. yea, try this, and spew 0 - 50% of your btn range

it works rly well, people play fit fold alot at nl5 and there are no regs that will punish you with 3betting alot and cring flops alot as they should. and it will help solar to open up his game trust me i grinded these games alot recently, no better place to open up your game than in position with initiative

I would suggest that your play is good for the early and middle positions, but you should work on steal percentage is so low that it would be very easy to put you on a hand and for me to not find any reason to ever pay you off. button especially you can probably steal quite a bit more effectively. I would also suggest floating some flops where you have many outs (as Mariuslol mentioned you fold to cbet every time you miss).
Similarly you nit it up in steal situations, underdefending against steal raises. You need to realize that you can defend about 10-20% more hands than you probably think would be profitable, because you are OOP you will be able to collect (usually) a flop cbet aswell as the pfr from the original stealer when you hit and only lose the call of the pfr when you miss. In these spots it isn't as terrible (I believe) to play a bit more fit or fold than in spots where you were the pfr-er.

On January 18 2013 05:42 LemOn[5thF] wrote: Show nested quote + On January 18 2013 04:51 Mariuslol wrote:   On January 18 2013 03:08 LemOn[5thF] wrote: solar just raise 100pct buttons cbet every dry flop most wet ones with some sort of equity and see what happens. yea, try this, and spew 0 - 50% of your btn range it works rly well, people play fit fold alot at nl5 and there are no regs that will punish you with 3betting alot and cring flops alot as they should. and it will help solar to open up his game trust me i grinded these games alot recently, no better place to open up your game than in position with initiative

This.
Even if up to 50% of your button range is spewed (which it won't be) you have both position and initiative which will more than keep you in the black in these spots. I play about 36-42% of hands in these spots and is one of my highest winrate spots.

Sidenote; don't be discouraged you are doing great. It is hard to believe you are playing well when you feel like you get crushed every session but a bb/100 over 5 is great as far as I am concerned so try to focus on the long run.
You should always be concentrating on the correct decisions over trying to make money or win an individual pot.

what do you want out of poker?

pro tip: delete poker and get a job

Great comments guys, thanks. Gonna try to adjust my game in a better direction

"The reason is, you only c-bet when you hit or got a draw." - My flop cbet is ~73%. I'm usually trying to bet on every board... Maybe not when I play vs a loose guy on a drawy board when I don't hit at all. But usually I'm trying to cbet a lot. Well, my Turn cbet is only 50%. Do you think it should be higher? When my cbet bluff fails I usually always shut down on turn, cause I feel very unsure about how to go on/on which card to bluff... Great advice with the flop turn and river AF, gonna try to add those stats to my hud, although it always confuses me a lot when I add stats. Right now I only have VPIP, PFR, 3bet, fold to 3bet, 4bet, total AF, cbet, fold to cbet. Any ideas what else I can add besides the three AF ones?

Gonna loosen up a little now, especially from button, although overall I feel the nitlife is really OK for NL5 to beat it. But I can probably learn more and maybe win more if I steal more from button/cutoff and SB... I realize my fold to steal is really high. What is a "steal"? Is it just a preflop raise? Or is a preflop raise only from button or cutoff? Or only from button? Not exactly sure what this stat wants to tell me...

"what do you want out of poker?" - Wanna see how far I can get.

"pro tip: delete poker and get a job" - I got a job, it's okay. I'm not taking poker too seriously. I am also aware that I will be dissapointed by poker to 95% or something :D

Your HUD should only have the information that you need to make close desicions, I don't really care what someones overall AF is because it doesn't affect the way I intend to play my hand.

On January 19 2013 10:31 SolarM wrote: "what do you want out of poker?" - Wanna see how far I can get. "pro tip: delete poker and get a job" - I got a job, it's okay. I'm not taking poker too seriously. I am also aware that I will be dissapointed by poker to 95% or something :D

Keep nitting it up if you don't want to take it serious, just do what makes you happy (and hopefully profit ) but if you want to move up take some of my advice from above and from all the other great ideas above, see what works and what doesn't for you personally.

N.B. If you do not know what a "steal" is then either never look at these stats or educate yourself.

I know that steal means stealing the blinds... Just don't know if a raise from utg is counted as a steal as well. Now after writing this sentence I'm sure it doesn't. Probably only button raises... Whatever, gonna look it up

I'll use all of your advice and see what happens and will write a new blog in a month or so about how things are going.

Cheers