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moneypoker   Poland. Apr 20 2013 15:10. Posts 693
... is how you survive, I ain't tryin' to survive I'm tryin' to live...

This quote by Jay-Z was true when I was a poker player. Unfortunatly nowadays is all about survival, so this blog will be about regular 9 to 5 jobs.

My professional situation changed dramatically since last month. I was kinda worried that I would lose my job because my contract was ending at the end of april and I wasn't sure if I will get another one. I send some CVs applying for other jobs just in case and was invited on interviews in McKinsey and Credit Suisse.
Then suddenly in the middle of the recruitment process in those companies I was given a promotion and a raise in my current company and signed a new contract. Then after a week of silence I was contacted both by McKinsey and Credit Suisse for my final round of interviews. To get things short I got an offer from McKinsey yesterday and I am waiting for a response from Credit Suisse who are suposed to make a decision by the middle of next week.

Now to the point. I am kinda hesitant on accepting the offer from McKinsey. My current job is just super laid back. My boss is the most calm and smart person I have known, he does the majority of work to the point that I never felt ANY pressure when working on something and never did a single hour of overtime. To make things even more awesome I have a dinner break that can last 1 hour in the middle of the day, and I don't have to work more because of it. So essentially I am working 7 gours a day, great boss, no presure, 1 hour dinner break, coffe breaks as often as I wan't, very small workload. The pay is pretty good and I have a senior position after my pomotion.

On the other hand McKinsey is very tempting. I think the company has a great brand and will open many doors if I work there (anybody dissagree?). The pay is good + there are many additional benefits. But after doing some research I read that the workload is very heavy and You can avarage 60 hours a week. This is something I am scared of because as a former poker player I am not used to work at all and am struggling to endure 8 hours at my regular job.

Does anybody work or knows someone working as an analyst in McKinsey? I'm just trying to find out is it worth the long hours spend at work. How is Your experience working overtime?


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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Apr 20 2013 15:18. Posts 15163

Well I read in search of excellence so they must be good, that's how I know them

I take it it's a consultancy job. I've been looking at PwC and E&Y jobs and first thing they lead with is "this isn't your normal 9-5 job", it was in corporte strategy graduate schemes. I guess you will have to expect a lot longer work during the week but having experience in one of them companies, even for a few years only would be so pimp on your CV, especially if you get to work with some cool clients.

Anything's easy if it is in line with your goals and if it helps you get what you really want, jobs like these are super difficult if you aren't willing to "live" them and are really motivated to be good at them and want clock your time get paid and live your life.

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royalsu   Canada. Apr 20 2013 16:31. Posts 3233

McKinsey will work you to the ground. My friend was told in interviews that they were expected to work about 12 hours a day. It's a workaholic culture and your colleagues will only respect you if you do the same. The point is that McKinsey is training you to solve big problems so that you can be an executive. So in return for sacrificing your life since you won't have time to do anything but think about work all day, after 3-5 years you get to become CEO/executive and continue working your ass off in return for the big bucks. I met some girls from McKinsey on a triple blind date and they were really cool: world travellers, extremely smart, and ambitious. The people you surround yourself with become your friends.


rememp   Canada. Apr 20 2013 18:26. Posts 480

Hi man, I'm a management consultant at Deloitte, and I have a lot of friends at McKinsey, the hours in North America are usually around 80 hours a week, but you will undoubtedly meet some of the smartest people you will ever meet.


LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Apr 20 2013 18:30. Posts 15163

Pretty much exactly what I expected thanks royalsu

You just can't "do" jobs like these, you have to live them

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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Apr 20 2013 18:33. Posts 15163

by the way guys what sort of goals in life should you have for a career like this to be viable?
I have the qualifications for it just wondering if it's worth sacrificing your life for a few years for this kind of a career.

I work in sales which is pretty much similar money similar workload (60hrs+) and relaxed atmosphere and way more freedom but obviously not as diverse and the top performers aren't exactly the smartest people on earth, sometimes it astonishes me how dumb people can be can't even spell basic stuff but outsell others through attitude and hard work, but I kinda miss theory crafting and debates from my uni classes

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NewbSaibot   United States. Apr 20 2013 20:20. Posts 4946

Just depends what you're after. If you still have room to grow in your life, as in you are moving up in stakes, then take the job that offers the most opportunity for growth. If however you have peaked, or have chosen to peak, then take the easiest of the two since you have no more ambition, and simply want a nice comfortable paycheck every 2 weeks.

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iop   Sweden. Apr 21 2013 11:31. Posts 4951

Im working as an Analyst at Spotify, and there is no such thing as 9-5. A lot of my colleagues/friend are from the/working for the Big 4, or the other big consultancy firms. They've learnt a shit load, but have also worked their ass off.

Milkman lol i didnt spend half a thousand on a phone so i could play it cool and be all stealth 

Svenman87   United States. Apr 23 2013 00:46. Posts 4636

Consulting firms aren't a 9-5

You're constantly traveling and constantly working - ofc a benefit is they pay very well and you will make a lot of money if you can survive that lifestyle.

I have a family member working for a big consulting firm and I'll see him on an odd holiday but the fucking stories he has are pretty crazy. It's really geared to those workaholics like others have stated previously.

Give it a shot and find out if you sink or swim - either way it'll tell you a lot about what you really want to do.


 



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