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NewbSaibot United States. Dec 06 2013 01:50. Posts 4946 | | |
So I just finished a proud blog last week about how I'm playing zone poker and taking advantage of all the dead money I see going around, with the biggest element that I buy in for 50BB's to limit my losses when I get coolered. I figured if everyone is anonymous then there's no incentive to play big deep pots because you dont know if your opponent is the type to pay off with a 3rd nut flush draw. So I post all these stats and stuff as evidence of my playstyle when I realized I missed the most important stat of all, showdown value hands. A quick glimpse at what REALLY makes me money, and surprise surprise, flushes and sets top the list. Well obviously these are the kinds of hands you want to be playing big pots for, ergo implied odds really do exist even in a completely anonymous structure.
While the button still proves to be the most profitable position for me, I need to start buying back in full and playing all those drawing hands, BUT ONLY those drawing hands. I knew there was a reason I stopped buying in full, and it wasnt because my draws never get there. It's because I keep hemorrhaging money with 2nd pair or worse. This sounds pretty asinine but I dont see how I didnt notice this on my own. I do relatively well with top pair, but apparently I'm down like $500 at NL25 and NL50 playing less than top pair, with no draw! Upon looking over the hands I can tell what I was doing, and that was just lots of bluffcatching in retarded spots where villain 3 barrel donkbets Q8o on a QJ57T board. I mean my "read" is often right in these situations, villain was turning his hand into a bluff, the problem is *he didnt know that*. I've also lost quite a bit on bluff attempts that probably arent necessary. I dont know how to quantify it but I'd be surprised if I'm even breakeven on my bluffs, so I'm just gonna stop. By bluff, I mean like a 3 street allin type bluff.
Anyway the kinds of hands paying off my flushes have actually been surprisingly bad, so I've decided that any 2 suited will do, so I'm either raising or calling any standard open with literally any 2 suited. People still fold to cbets a lot in zone poker.
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PuertoRican United States. Dec 06 2013 02:10. Posts 13095 | | | |
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Baalim Mexico. Dec 06 2013 02:46. Posts 34261 | | |
Thinking 50bbs limit your losses vs coolers is dumb because it also limits your profits when you cooler somebody else, and if you think you are a better player than them, then those scenarios will lead to way more profit |
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A lot of hands aren't about being profitable but you need to play them and play them well to minimize loses because folding or other alternatives lose more (think the BB) |
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mnj United States. Dec 06 2013 05:26. Posts 3848 | | |
how long have u beem playing for? |
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SolarM Germany. Dec 06 2013 09:10. Posts 533 | | |
At NL25 the rake is lower with 100BBs because the cap can be reached. Also you can also play those deep 100BB+ pots better than your opponents if you know how. Having no reads doesnt mean you have no reads because you know how the average guy of your game plays and how you can exploit this average guy best. |
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YoMeR United States. Dec 06 2013 21:31. Posts 12438 | | |
kinda sad zone poker doesn't offer higher than NL25 regularly |
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Xervean United States. Dec 06 2013 22:36. Posts 682 | | |
| | On December 06 2013 20:31 YoMeR wrote:
kinda sad zone poker doesn't offer higher than NL25 regularly |
50NL zone runs almost every day around midnight central time. It only goes for about 3-4 hours though. Not sure why it dies during the day. I've never seen 100nl zone run though..  |
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NewbSaibot United States. Dec 06 2013 23:17. Posts 4946 | | |
when the NL50 lobby dies though sometimes it stays dead. For a couple of weeks it just didnt exist for about 3 nights in a row here and there. |
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Xervean United States. Dec 06 2013 23:49. Posts 682 | | |
Hmm well I know it's been running the last 2-3 nights and it's going right now. I haven't played it much recently since I moved up but I still like to 1 table it when watching a tv series or something. Works pretty well since you don't have to pay attention to reads or anything. |
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NewbSaibot United States. Dec 07 2013 00:43. Posts 4946 | | |
True dat. I cant believe the higher stakes regs dont get NL200 or above rolling. I'd imagine fish would love to put their 1k rolls on the line just like they do at NL50. |
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Xervean United States. Dec 07 2013 02:32. Posts 682 | | |
Yeah especially when there are lots of regular 100 and 200nl tables running. Just won 1.5 buyins watching netflix.. love it! :D |
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