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drone666   Brasil. Mar 14 2014 02:17. Posts 1825 | | |
sup liquidpokes
just decided that I want to be good at poker
some of the things I am willing to do:
- aiming for 200 hours+ months
- invest the money I earn in coaching and build a healthy bankroll in order to move up at lightining speed instead of buying stupid eletronic shits and expensive drinks for friends
- have a healthy lifestyle: start lifting again, follow a diet
- trainy, eaty, sleepy
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- not going nuts
last 3 days I've been just playing poker and doing nothing else, and I got to say that I'm feeling really happy doing that, don't know if I gonna get burnout if I keep playing 10 hours straight everyday, but I'll try
been playing a lot of regs at HU zoom while I don't get action, and been battling for anonymous tables at partypoker and I've been learning a lot doing that
also joined a few study groups, PM'd a few good regs that I know that play HU in order to get a coach, but got no luck so far, some dude who plays up to nl5k and used to coach at pokersavvy or something like that, gave me some help for free analyzing some things in my DB, really nice
also pmd FAYTH, but he said he's not coaching, don't know if there's anybody else here who plays HU
anyway, graph for the last 3 days:
gl all
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Trav94   Canada. Mar 14 2014 02:47. Posts 1789 | | |
I always love reading your posted hands and the way you approach your game. Best of luck. |
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GoTuNk   Chile. Mar 14 2014 09:15. Posts 2860 | | |
sick grind ethics, thats a shitload of hands HU in 3 days |
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TalentedTom   Canada. Mar 14 2014 11:23. Posts 20070 | | |
strong will power will get you far in life
gl executing this
that being said you need to setup a reward system, lets say you put in 100h in 2 weeks + you learn a lot and get better. Reward yourself, or your gonna hate yourself / life / the game. I've seen ideas like this before, you need to also think about long term sustainibilty
Ideally look at the people who have been playing poker for a very long time (5+ years), are successful and pick their minds (mass PM successfull players, it's what I did back in the day untll a few eventually responded). Try not to compare yourself to and model the system created by irrational and impulsive people |
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drone666   Brasil. Mar 14 2014 13:25. Posts 1825 | | |
| On March 14 2014 01:47 Trav94 wrote:
I always love reading your posted hands and the way you approach your game. Best of luck. |
thanks, my approach might not be the best since I'm still a monkey tilt and sometimes I post tilted hands, lol
| On March 14 2014 08:15 GoTuNk wrote:
sick grind ethics, thats a shitload of hands HU in 3 days |
thanks, reading your blog made me realize how I suck because I saw how you could do multiple things and still being sucessful lifting, playing poker and studying at the same time
I fell like shit by not putting enough work since playing poker is the only productive thing I do right now
another thing was when I was searching for a coach, and some dude told me to talk to a estonian guy who was coaching, he was playing up to nl2k and playing a lot of midstakes regs
I googled him and realized that he started playing HU in 2013, before that he used to grind nl10, lol,
I guess he never cashed out from poker since he hasnt played much hands in each stake, but he kept moving up, getting coached and playing better players
I'm not sure how much I made from poker in the last 5 years when I decided to play full time, around 150k I guess, and if I had spent less money, or at least spent in the right things I wouldn't be a nl100 grinder after 5 fucking years
| On March 14 2014 10:23 TalentedTom wrote:
strong will power will get you far in life
gl executing this
that being said you need to setup a reward system, lets say you put in 100h in 2 weeks + you learn a lot and get better. Reward yourself, or your gonna hate yourself / life / the game. I've seen ideas like this before, you need to also think about long term sustainibilty
Ideally look at the people who have been playing poker for a very long time (5+ years), are successful and pick their minds (mass PM successfull players, it's what I did back in the day untll a few eventually responded). Try not to compare yourself to and model the system created by irrational and impulsive people |
I actually read a really good book about the subject
Drive by Daniel Pink, he talks about how the rewarding system does not work in heuristic tasks, the reward itself should be reaching my goals, feel good by beating the competition, the money shouldn't be at first place or my performace and drive will be compromised
so I might change some of my goals during my journey, if I think it's not good to play that much poker, I'm not going to play just for the sake of saying that I did it
ofc that I still pretend to enjoy life, travel and chill, but I've been "over rewarding" myself my whole career, so I'm not really worried about not rewarding myself enough
but yea you are right,think I will lurk some PG&C threads from highstakes/nosebleed players at 2+2 and take their approach as a model ( already read alextrev and otb_redbaron ) , I'm no isildur obv |
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thats wise words from talentedtom
Ive burned out from poker so many times, you need long term sustainability. talk to people who have that and emulate them. |
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PuertoRican   United States. Mar 14 2014 15:05. Posts 13151 | | |
VAMOS!
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Trav94   Canada. Mar 14 2014 18:17. Posts 1789 | | |
How many tables do you generally play at once? |
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drone666   Brasil. Mar 14 2014 18:34. Posts 1825 | | |
4 if playing with the same guy, or 4 HU zoom
2-3 playing different villains, maybe 4 if I'm playing good |
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TalentedTom   Canada. Mar 14 2014 22:27. Posts 20070 | | |
yeah I've heard studies that support the opposite (although there are studies that support any claim these days so who knows rreally) that being said what I mstly meant to say is do what makes you happy. for me persnally i always sacrificed a bit of winrate and never table selected / denied anyone action in my life because it made me happy. I would be happier having a -11 buy in session and finishing even vs a very good player then table selecting and winning 2-3 buy ins playing fish and bumhunting. This approach probably made me a considerably better player then I would have been otherwise. I can also play very long sessions, and for many days straight while doing this, whereas I would quickly lose motivation and desire and prob focus too if I did the whole table selecting / bumhunting thing, which would inevitably cause my winrate and hapiness to drop in the long run |
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drone666   Brasil. Mar 15 2014 07:30. Posts 1825 | | |
oh now it's clear, the book actually support exactly what you said
you are driven primarily by the challenge and not the outcome ( money ) and that's why you can play long sessions and you not find poker boring
in theory, bumhunting and thinking solely about money should be +ev in the long run, but as you stated it's not!
players that are driven primarily by the outcome, find the game boring and heavy grinding is a pain in the ass, that's why I use to grind 60 hours per month and now I can easily grind 10 hours straight like magic ( don't know if that's going to continue, maybe I will become a lazy bum again next months, who knows)
most players prob don't know but they are like you, because poker is an heuristic task and you need to be creative ( according to the book and what I believe now at least ) |
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MezmerizePLZ   United States. Mar 15 2014 19:32. Posts 2598 | | |
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Raidern   Brasil. Mar 15 2014 22:58. Posts 4243 | | |
It amazes me that u can consider urself happy playing poker 10h a day. To each his own i guess. Im not really comparing poker to studying, but I studied an avg of 180 to 200h hours/month in 2013 for over 8 months and it drained the shit out of me, im so glad its over. Its pretty impressive that you can do that in spite of poker being so stressful at times |
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TalentedTom   Canada. Mar 16 2014 07:51. Posts 20070 | | |
| On March 15 2014 18:32 MezmerizePLZ wrote:
imba |
march 25th imba arrives |
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