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NewbSaibot   United States. Apr 12 2014 22:58. Posts 4946
Sure got burned for the second time utilizing one of these online video streaming rental services (google play, vudu). Rented the hobbit last night, got bored watching it, came back to finish it tonight, EXPIRED. You know what? Fuck you. Fuck you hard bitch. I tried to play fair. I tried to give you a reasonable chance not to horse fuck me. I gave you my money. I played by the rules, and this is what I got. An unreasonable time frame. Well good job MPAA, you just drove another user to 100% dedicated piracy. You had your shot, you had one of those elusive users who knows all too well how to steal your shit, but decided that because he can afford to pay that he should pay, and this is how you return the favor. You put me in a situation where undoubtedly the goal was to see if I would pay twice. I mean afterall who can only watch half a movie right? What other possible motive would there be other than to stack the deck so that the movie expires during the next logical viewing period (the same time the next day). Why wouldn't you give someone 48 hours? What do you have to lose? What advantage does this give me?

Anyway downloading HD version right now along with half a dozen other movies that were in my wish list to pay for.

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Gnarly   United States. Apr 13 2014 00:33. Posts 1723

>digital renting
>renting digital data
>literally renting information

I mean, I would pay maybe a dollar or two for a movie online to actually fucking download Having to, in essence, pay per view? Fuck no.

>not having been a pirate since you knew about it

Diversify or fossilize! 

Mariuslol   Norway. Apr 13 2014 00:46. Posts 4742

Arrr matey!! I've been a pirate for a long time lol!

I found this site today in Internet is beautiful, and you could just put in the shows you've watched, and it would add up how much time you've spent watching series.

I sat for a bit, tried to remember all the ones I've watched through at least, and I'm sure im missing looooads, but this is what I could remember, it's almost 140 days in series. Movies is not included, so I'm betting, if you add all the movies ive seen (pirated), and all the shows, it's probably closer to 300 days or so. And all of it is pirated lol:


http://sivakodali.com/tv/


goose58   United States. Apr 13 2014 00:59. Posts 871

Let your hate flow through you


mnj   United States. Apr 13 2014 04:00. Posts 3848

i torrent everything, but telling yourself it isn't wrong is absolutely delusional.


iop   Sweden. Apr 13 2014 04:46. Posts 4951

Stopped downloading stuff illegally, 3-4 years ago.

I can understand your frustration, but you're not being very objective in the matter.

Milkman lol i didnt spend half a thousand on a phone so i could play it cool and be all stealth 

traxamillion   United States. Apr 13 2014 05:37. Posts 10468

I like ice films.

Objective? Who gives a shit if it is technically I illegal. Take what you can the companies selling shit sure as he'll do


Baalim   Mexico. Apr 13 2014 07:04. Posts 34261

Steam proved that piracy is a problem of service.

Since Steam came out ive never pirated a game again, however I will continue to pirate the shit out of movies, tv shows etc until they provide a good product with a good service.

Ex-PokerStars Team Pro Online 

Raidern   Brasil. Apr 13 2014 07:41. Posts 4243

I pay for netflix but if i want to watch a movie thats already available on the internets but not on netflix ill gladly dl and watch it.

im a regular at nl5 

traxamillion   United States. Apr 13 2014 08:57. Posts 10468


  On April 13 2014 06:04 Baalim wrote:
Steam proved that piracy is a problem of service.

Since Steam came out ive never pirated a game again, however I will continue to pirate the shit out of movies, tv shows etc until they provide a good product with a good service.



Games are a bit different though because valid cd keys are required for online play and often steam itself provides the servers and online game platforms.


traxamillion   United States. Apr 13 2014 09:01. Posts 10468

So if movies were like games on steam it would almost be like they only exist on steam, impossible to download you have to stream. Then of course you would have to pay. It's not the same because you can still get offline games on steam and steam in General is great but the online play aspect is kind of like that.

For example if you want to play counter-strike these days you have to use steam


RiKD    United States. Apr 13 2014 10:37. Posts 8881

I feel like a week + 12 hours is more reasonable for renting. I do not understand why they can not do this. The whole point of movies/tv is loss of consciousness/transcendence. Having to worry about deadlines and/or getting scammed on a re-up to vacay from the pains, chaos, and absurdity the day can bring is a crime against humanity.


Gnarly   United States. Apr 13 2014 10:49. Posts 1723

Top fucking kek pirating has never hurt the game industry. Never listen to stream, that's a big fucking kek. They have done analysts of chinese piraters and a few other of the surrounding countries and found that torrenting massively helped spread information around and was/is literally the fucking backbone for a couple gaming development companies.

I doubt this hurt the music or film industry, either, as in the music industry, the artists don't get royalties from records sales, though record sales can determine if the label keeps the band around, though they really need to adapt torrenting instead of literally only physical copies from certain stores to be the determination. I'm not sure how this would affect the film industry, but I'm sure this actually helps them out.

Any time you have negative press on something, well, usually, you get a backlash effect on it. When you ban smoking, cigarette sales increase. When you ban drinking, there's more alcohol sales. When you ban drugs, cars, food, anything that really isn't harmful to us, we want more of it. I wouldn't be surprised if this wasn't a fake campaign to increase torrenting if the industries have found a way to profit from the torrenting.

Diversify or fossilize! 

mnj   United States. Apr 13 2014 11:38. Posts 3848

u guys are straight up in denial if you think that pirating has NOT hurt the gaming, music, movie industry.

maybe at this point when your the 100000000000th torrenter, sure it most likely has no effect. but if they somehow eliminated all torrenting, there is no doubt that the above industries would be better off.


Gnarly   United States. Apr 13 2014 12:01. Posts 1723

Tell me how many game, film, and music companies have failed due to piracy. Piracy only increases traffic, and traffic is how a lot of advertising companies make their money. Piracy increases server loads, which may be bad for an extremely small company starting out with its first game, but having steady server traffic is better than having dwindling traffic. This also goes to word-of-mouth. Which game do you think people would play more, based on how many people already play the game? LoL or SC2? I'd say LoL just looking at the stream traffic on TL. (yes i know LoL is free but you get the point) Developers who try to introduce anti-piracy codes in their game can ruin themselves like TitanQuest did, because when you have something not working and a lot of people start asking "Why the fuck is there this glitch this game" which gets logged onto the Google queries, you get people asking why the fuck is this game even being sold if it's got these glitches, and I ain't even played it yet?

The main problem caused by piracy is server overloads. Then again, server traffic can literally make the game.

Diversify or fossilize! 

Liquid`Drone   Norway. Apr 13 2014 13:30. Posts 3096


  On April 13 2014 10:38 mnj wrote:
u guys are straight up in denial if you think that pirating has NOT hurt the gaming, music, movie industry.

maybe at this point when your the 100000000000th torrenter, sure it most likely has no effect. but if they somehow eliminated all torrenting, there is no doubt that the above industries would be better off.



gaming industry has not been hurt by piracy. Piracy is what made people become gamers (and eventually, paying gamers). I think out of the 1000 games I played between the age of 5 and 20 I had purchased like 10 of them, whereas in the past 5 years with steam being so awesome I've literally bought more games than I've played.. I agree entirely with baal - I don't pirate games and haven't for years, I likewise haven't pirated a single song since I got spotify, but I'll keep it up for movies and series for a bit longer. thing is, movies/series needs to be a period-based payment (like spotify) whereas games can be a per-service payment, and then one provider needs to have access to basically everything before it can compete with piracy in terms of what it offers.

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Mariuslol   Norway. Apr 13 2014 14:17. Posts 4742

I haven't payed for porn either!!

I feel like such a gangster when I'm on forums, wuhu!!

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devon06atX   Canada. Apr 13 2014 14:37. Posts 5459


  On April 13 2014 10:38 mnj wrote:
u guys are straight up in denial if you think that pirating has NOT hurt the gaming, music, movie industry.

maybe at this point when your the 100000000000th torrenter, sure it most likely has no effect. but if they somehow eliminated all torrenting, there is no doubt that the above industries would be better off.

It's hard to feel bad for those actors who are making 25 mill a movie, and those producers who are making 300 mill profit for movies that have a decent premiere.

Yes. I'm a pirate, and proud of it. When I was a kid, I used to record songs that I liked off the radio.

- Sticking it to the man since 1997


waga   United Kingdom. Apr 13 2014 16:36. Posts 2375


  On April 13 2014 13:37 devon06atX wrote:
[QUOTE]On April 13 2014 10:38 mnj wrote:


Yes. I'm a pirate, and proud of it. When I was a kid, I used to record songs that I liked off the radio.




rofl this.
It was hard tho
always a motherfucker to talk on your song
bitch !


LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Apr 13 2014 20:10. Posts 15163


  On April 13 2014 12:30 Liquid`Drone wrote:
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gaming industry has not been hurt by piracy. Piracy is what made people become gamers (and eventually, paying gamers). I think out of the 1000 games I played between the age of 5 and 20 I had purchased like 10 of them, whereas in the past 5 years with steam being so awesome I've literally bought more games than I've played.. I agree entirely with baal - I don't pirate games and haven't for years, I likewise haven't pirated a single song since I got spotify, but I'll keep it up for movies and series for a bit longer. thing is, movies/series needs to be a period-based payment (like spotify) whereas games can be a per-service payment, and then one provider needs to have access to basically everything before it can compete with piracy in terms of what it offers.

pirate games?
Dude back in the day all you had was sharewares on PC magazine floppies and later CDs

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