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LikeASet   United States. May 05 2014 03:21. Posts 2113
a lot of the time if im wait-listed for my local nl holdem game i'll play limit holdem or limit plo hi lo. the stakes for these games range from 3/6-4/8 with kill pots that increase the blinds 50% for the following hand. I was just wondering if that even if the player pool is the baddest of the bad, with a 4$ rake is the game slightly winnable or should you expect to be just losing money slowly over time with these limit games?

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aCa_   . May 05 2014 05:12. Posts 470

I think you beat the rake by hitting the BBJ at your table.


Joe   Czech Republic. May 05 2014 05:47. Posts 5987

How can a game be LIMIT PLO???

there is a light at the end of the tunnel... (but sometimes the tunnel is long and deep as hell) 

traxamillion   United States. May 05 2014 11:43. Posts 10468

He means limit Omaha hi lo.

Do you play in NorCal? Lucky chances or bay 101? Kinda sounds like it


Xervean   United States. May 05 2014 14:05. Posts 682

Live 4/8 Limit hold'em is definitely beatable for around minimum waige.. maybe a little higher. 3/6 and 4/8 Limit omaha hi/lo is probably not beatable because it would be hard to beat the rake with all the split pots. You could probably beat those stakes in Vegas for a small amount (If they ran) because they have really good rake structures for limit games in a lot of places.

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LikeASet   United States. May 06 2014 03:50. Posts 2113


  On May 05 2014 10:43 traxamillion wrote:
He means limit Omaha hi lo.

Do you play in NorCal? Lucky chances or bay 101? Kinda sounds like it



norcal, good little hole in the wall called napa valley casino


NMcNasty    United States. May 12 2014 13:34. Posts 2039


  On May 05 2014 13:05 Xervean wrote:
Live 4/8 Limit hold'em is definitely beatable for around minimum waige.. maybe a little higher. 3/6 and 4/8 Limit omaha hi/lo is probably not beatable because it would be hard to beat the rake with all the split pots. You could probably beat those stakes in Vegas for a small amount (If they ran) because they have really good rake structures for limit games in a lot of places.



This is about right. Its nearly impossible for a live NL winner to be a loser in a 4/8 game, so if your options are play or sit and wait you might as well play. That said I'm even skeptical of 1 BB winrates at live 4/8. Rake is truly brutal and the game plays slowly. It would be like making 8 BB/100 online. I think a more realistic winrate is 1/2 BB per hour live. Which, accounting for slower play and double rake, is like 4 BB/100 online.


 



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