It strange to think that the infinity of Reals or Rationals is larger then the infinity of integers, or how some infinities are greater then others. Can you have 2*infinity ?
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PoorUser   United States. Sep 06 2016 10:36. Posts 7472
think you meant irrationals?
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Joe   Czech Republic. Sep 06 2016 16:01. Posts 5987
On September 06 2016 07:47 FMLuser wrote:
It strange to think that the infinity of Reals or Rationals is larger then the infinity of integers, or how some infinities are greater then others. Can you have 2*infinity ?
Infinity is still infinity, no matter how many times you divide or multiply it.
Infinity of Rationals and Integers is the same "size" (they can be put/mapped one-to-one). They are called "countable" (as is any set that can be mapped one-to-one to Integers)
Reals are "uncountable" - no matter how you try to map them to Integers, there will always be some (infinity) outside of the mapping.
On September 06 2016 09:36 PoorUser wrote:
think you meant irrationals?
yeah sorry used to using Z R Q N
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Daut   United States. Sep 06 2016 20:03. Posts 8955
IMO the most beautiful set of theorems in mathematics:
Between any two rational numbers there is an irrational number.
Between any two irrational numbers there is a rational number.
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failsafe   United States. Sep 06 2016 22:18. Posts 1087
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Venrae   United States. Sep 07 2016 00:19. Posts 1545
there's a video on youtube about the different sizes of infinity.
I'm at work but I think it's this one
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failsafe   United States. Sep 07 2016 01:17. Posts 1087
On September 06 2016 19:03 Daut wrote:
IMO the most beautiful set of theorems in mathematics:
Between any two rational numbers there is an irrational number.
Between any two irrational numbers there is a rational number.
"Between any two rational numbers there is an irrational number."
I belive (but im not sure) that between any two rational numbers there is infinite amount of irrational numbers:
(-oo, +oo) = (0,1) = | 2*N | = | R |
(0.5, 0.6) =| R |
I belive
sa duze szanse ze moge sie mylic = theres a big chance i could be wrong
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Into Infinity   United States. Sep 08 2016 19:27. Posts 1884
let A, B be real numbers. A > B, and B != 0.
then, there exists a real number C where A - B = C, where C > 0.
there exists a natural number N such that N > 1/C
so:
N > 1/C
<=> CN > 1
<=> AN - BN > 1
=> there is an integer X where:
AN > X > BN
<=> A > X/N > B
where X/N is a rational number
since A and B are real numbers, they can be both rational and irrational, and since X/N is rational, there are an infinite amount of rationals between A and B
i think that's right (i'm rusty)
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traxamillion   United States. Sep 09 2016 05:46. Posts 10468
euler's identity is probably the most beautiful thing in math imo
imo the fact that between 0 and 1 there are equally many (in the bijection sense) numbers as there are any numbers is pretty cool. although now that i think the "in the bijection sense" kind of ruins it and becomes somewhat trivial and boring, but I remember being impressed when a professor stated this without proof on like first lecture at the university.
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Stroggoz   New Zealand. Sep 11 2016 01:34. Posts 5365
Yeah i vote eulers identity. Also i like the proof that closed interval from 0 to 1 is uncountable. It shows that the reals is just faaaaaaaar bigger than integers.
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failsafe   United States. Sep 12 2016 10:51. Posts 1087
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failsafe   United States. Sep 12 2016 10:52. Posts 1087