Starting over

well best of luck, I'll never understand why people lack discipline so much with their money

Good luck man. Enjoyed the blogs. Looking forward to seeing more.

If you do everything that you said I like your chances, and no offense, but this has the look and feel of a well-written neilly post. Will definitely follow along though, and keep us updated if it helps you feel accountable for your plan. GLGL

I honestly don't understand how you keep going back to poker after such events. How are you not going for some kind of stable income, find a job that actually fulfills you. I'm gonna sound like an asshole here, but it's quite easy to think all of the things you've written right at this moment, simply because you came close to being completely broke. Once you get those 30k$, then its the time you will get those thoughts on " what if i spend 1k on this and 2k on that ... it wont hurt me that much ". Thats the time your decisions matter. You have no other choice, but to think the way you think right now.... well you can fall into self-pity, but you're obviously smart enough not to do so.

Which brings me back to the question. Why don't you just find something you are good at and want to do. It can't only be poker.

let me know if you can beat micro plo rake over a significant sample. Afaik you need to play 2/4 to have much winrate which gives me anxiety (weird cause live wont bother me playing higher) and so im just playing husngs

most likely killing it live until you have the money to be unbothered by swings at 1/2-2/4 in online PLO would be my advice. I have a large database of PLO hands on video (Hopefully still ill have to look) that will teach you a ton about the game. I had to download them from some Swedish mirror. A guy who plays mid/high stakes was doing a bankroll challenge to make 100bi and x amount of cash (5-10K) starting from nothing, hundreds of hours of video but most of what i have has him going from 25plo to 100-200 plo. Its good stuff I will look into shipping it to you if you are interested and I can find it again. Plugged a lot of my 6max leaks (I was much better hu at the time - playing too loose by far in the earlier positions in ring games)

Poker is a relentless monster thats always testing your resolve as a man. Sometimes it will make you feel like a million bucks other times... like a pack of dimes.

The best motivation always comes in times when adversity is greatest though. Good luck and hopefully you are able to overcome the grind and find success.

Get rich or become irrelevant.

Did you manage to get rid of the credit card debt? Good luck dude.

On February 13 2017 22:20 Spitfiree wrote: I honestly don't understand how you keep going back to poker after such events. How are you not going for some kind of stable income, find a job that actually fulfills you. I'm gonna sound like an asshole here, but it's quite easy to think all of the things you've written right at this moment, simply because you came close to being completely broke. Once you get those 30k$, then its the time you will get those thoughts on " what if i spend 1k on this and 2k on that ... it wont hurt me that much ". Thats the time your decisions matter. You have no other choice, but to think the way you think right now.... well you can fall into self-pity, but you're obviously smart enough not to do so. Which brings me back to the question. Why don't you just find something you are good at and want to do. It can't only be poker.

I guess I just dont like feeling obligated to work for somebody else. That sense of dependency makes me insecure. Today is a fine example. I woke up at 2am last night with the sudden urge to vomit. Literally, I had to throw the covers off, blind myself with the bathroom light, and proceeded to puke my brains out in the toilet. This has never happened to me in my life and I think it was stress induced somehow even though I like my new job. Point is I got like no sleep afterwards, and then couldnt eat breakfast because my stomach was still in knots. As a poker player I could just take as much time as I need to get better. As an employee I had to drag my ass to work starved, stomach in pain, and sleepy as shit. I hate this so much.

You mention how I keep going back to poker, thing is I kinda feel like this is my first real shot. I've been looking through my blogs to see any hint of serious poker play to make sure I'm not falling into the Neilly trap and I dont see any. At no point have I ever felt I was a professional or even a winning player. I splash around but always had a job for my primary source of income with no plan for poker in sight. This time was different. I saved up money, moved out of state, and lived entirely off of poker earnings for almost a year. And for the first time I didnt go busto. I went broke, but not busto. I think that has a lot to do with it too. If I had moved to Florida with 10k in the bank and proceeded to lose 6k at the tables and the other 4k on bills then I'd probably hang it up. I'd admit I am a loser at the game. But that never happened. I won, and I did well. The sample is still somewhat small so I could have just been on a heater the whole time having only made 35k at 2/5, but overall I feel like I did ok.

I've set myself pretty far back in my poker ambitions here, to the point I may never be able to grind a roll again. I have a job that might net me $200 profit at the end of the month plus my 1k roll online that I'm using to take 10 BI shots at PLO. This is just a disaster waiting to happen, and it'll take me years to climb back up the corporate ladder to where I used to be, and thats assuming I even want to climb. I'm really enjoying having an easier job for once. So you know, we'll see where I really end up. It'll just be really cute if this time next year I'm writing a blog on $250 to $30k bankroll challenge

Online poker is dead. Why not stick to 2/5 live if thats where you've been winning? Im in a similar situation as you were last year...
Im moving from swfl to Los angeles/commerce in april.
Ive got to make 4-5k a month just to pay the bills and survive and felt like ive been a fuckboy the last 5 years and its been ctaching up on me.

good luck

On February 15 2017 15:07 JohnnyBologna wrote: Online poker is dead. Why not stick to 2/5 live if thats where you've been winning? Im in a similar situation as you were last year... Im moving from swfl to Los angeles/commerce in april. Ive got to make 4-5k a month just to pay the bills and survive and felt like ive been a fuckboy the last 5 years and its been ctaching up on me.

Well the biggest reason I'm back online again is just to play at limits I can afford. I could conceivably go back to 1/2 live once I have a a couple of grand saved up. Then I saw the PLO action on Ignition and felt that I could make a living if I got good at it without all the hassle of playing live. In a perfect world I think anybody would rather play online than live. If it turns out the games are too dry at midstakes on Ignition then I'll certainly go back to 2/5 live because I know thats beatable and you can make a decent living at it.

Why do you need 5k/month to pay the bills? That was roughly my budget, ($4300 to be exact I think) and it was totally unnecessary. Jeez if I could go back to earning 4k/month on my current budget all of my problems would be solved.

just play both live and online

Rent, car, and mostly going out to eat everyday heh...

you could cut back so easily. 1 year of car payments on my last car would have easily bought me a quality used luxury car that I'd flat out own right now with no payment at all. I think you can let rent slide since your place of residence is of some importance, as long as you arent spending 2k on a 1 bedroom apartment.