Audiobooks?

Believe it or not I was just about to post this exact kind of thread. I've been hiking a lot recently and commuting slightly more and I just got into Joe Rogan's podcast and I just downloaded Audible 4 days ago. For some reason I was under the illusion t hat a typical audio book was like 30 hours long so I never tried them. Now I've learned most seem to be 8ish hour which is not bad at all compared to a typical JRE podcast.

I listened to some of David goggins on JRE. Maybe 30 minutes. Seems like a cool story. I'll save it for when I need some motivation in life, at the moment I'm good.

I just finished Talking with Strangers by Malcolm Gladwell. I enjoyed it but I'm also a fan of his other stuff.

On July 15 2020 13:37 blackjacki2 wrote: Believe it or not I was just about to post this exact kind of thread. I've been hiking a lot recently and commuting slightly more and I just got into Joe Rogan's podcast and I just downloaded Audible 4 days ago. For some reason I was under the illusion t hat a typical audio book was like 30 hours long so I never tried them. Now I've learned most seem to be 8ish hour which is not bad at all compared to a typical JRE podcast. I listened to some of David goggins on JRE. Maybe 30 minutes. Seems like a cool story. I'll save it for when I need some motivation in life, at the moment I'm good. I just finished Talking with Strangers by Malcolm Gladwell. I enjoyed it but I'm also a fan of his other stuff.

Yea I've also been getting into Joe Rogan's podcast. And a few comedy ones. It helps with the lock down isolation. The Goggin's audiobook is 15hrs. Usually I listen to them while exercising.

I never understood this craze to like speed up audiobooks and podcasts and listen to them while doing math problems. I can understand a commute. Podcasts/audiobooks on a commute can be lifesavers but the gym? To each his own.

My suggestion:

What are you going to do with that duck? By Seth Godin

It's not actually in audiobook format but I think it would be a really good book for you. It's all blogs so you can pick it up and put it down at your leisure. You can leaf through it. Really do whatever.

I am not really the one to be motivating anyone at the moment. You'll either get through the block or you won't. You will probably be ok either way.

Good tunes.

I have many recommendations. Gonna need some narrowing down by genre though.

What's most appealing to you?
-fantasy
-scifi
-historical fiction
-fiction
-self help
-non fiction, various genres
-history

"Just finished Can't Hurt Me, which I would recommend to anyone looking for change in their lives."

Why?

On July 16 2020 02:31 Daut wrote: I have many recommendations. Gonna need some narrowing down by genre though. What's most appealing to you? -fantasy -scifi -historical fiction -fiction -self help -non fiction, various genres -history

Personally I want to consume a lot of the classics, i.e. the books that show up on the "100 books to read before you die." The only times I've read those kind of books was in school and my brain wasn't fully developed then and I didn't appreciate them because they were school work and not something I wanted to read in the first place.

But I also plan to alternate a famous classic book with a book just for fun. So I'll take recommendations for anything. I'm typically not a fan of any adventure/fantasy books or history books. I typically prefer non-fiction.

Next book I just started is The Checlist Manifesto by Atul Gawande

In his latest bestseller, Atul Gawande shows what the simple idea of the checklist reveals about the complexity of our lives and how we can deal with it. The modern world has given us stupendous know-how. Yet avoidable failures continue to plague us in health care, government, the law, the financial industry—in almost every realm of organized activity. And the reason is simple: the volume and complexity of knowledge today has exceeded our ability as individuals to properly deliver it to people—consistently, correctly, safely. We train longer, specialize more, use ever-advancing technologies, and still we fail. Atul Gawande makes a compelling argument that we can do better, using the simplest of methods: the checklist. In riveting stories, he reveals what checklists can do, what they can’t, and how they could bring about striking improvements in a variety of fields, from medicine and disaster recovery to professions and businesses of all kinds. And the insights are making a difference. Already, a simple surgical checklist from the World Health Organization designed by following the ideas described here has been adopted in more than twenty countries as a standard for care and has been heralded as “the biggest clinical invention in thirty years” (The Independent).

On July 16 2020 10:54 blackjacki2 wrote: Show nested quote + On July 16 2020 02:31 Daut wrote: I have many recommendations. Gonna need some narrowing down by genre though. What's most appealing to you? -fantasy -scifi -historical fiction -fiction -self help -non fiction, various genres -history Personally I want to consume a lot of the classics, i.e. the books that show up on the "100 books to read before you die." The only times I've read those kind of books was in school and my brain wasn't fully developed then and I didn't appreciate them because they were school work and not something I wanted to read in the first place. But I also plan to alternate a famous classic book with a book just for fun. So I'll take recommendations for anything. I'm typically not a fan of any adventure/fantasy books or history books. I typically prefer non-fiction. Next book I just started is The Checlist Manifesto by Atul Gawande   In his latest bestseller, Atul Gawande shows what the simple idea of the checklist reveals about the complexity of our lives and how we can deal with it. The modern world has given us stupendous know-how. Yet avoidable failures continue to plague us in health care, government, the law, the financial industry—in almost every realm of organized activity. And the reason is simple: the volume and complexity of knowledge today has exceeded our ability as individuals to properly deliver it to people—consistently, correctly, safely. We train longer, specialize more, use ever-advancing technologies, and still we fail. Atul Gawande makes a compelling argument that we can do better, using the simplest of methods: the checklist. In riveting stories, he reveals what checklists can do, what they can’t, and how they could bring about striking improvements in a variety of fields, from medicine and disaster recovery to professions and businesses of all kinds. And the insights are making a difference. Already, a simple surgical checklist from the World Health Organization designed by following the ideas described here has been adopted in more than twenty countries as a standard for care and has been heralded as “the biggest clinical invention in thirty years” (The Independent).

https://www.businessinsider.com/100-b...e-should-read-amazon-goodreads-2015-3

I've probably read about 50-60% of these.


Highly recommend:
1984
Fahrenheit 451
Animal Farm
A Tale of Two Cities
Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
Brave New World
Frankenstein
Catch-22
Ender's Game
Game of Thrones (and followups)
The Old Man and the Sea
The Pillars of the Earth (and sequels)
A Prayer for Owen Meany
Slaughterhouse-Five


Recommend:
To Kill a Mockingbird
Hamlet
The Little Prince (I used to practice French)
The Handmaid's Tale
Adventures of Sherlock Holmes


On my to read list:
Wuthering Heights
Anna Karenina
One Hundred Years of Solitude
Crime and Punishment
Siddhartha
The Brothers Karamazov

+1 animal farm. I listened to that book on audiobook exhausted after a shitty day of work. I had 1 beer and was lying in a couch and planned to listen to 1 chapter expecting nothing, but it was so weirdly captivating to me I couldn't stop and ran through it in 1 session. It takes like 4 hours I think. I never do any drugs but those 4 hours felt like what I imagine having a good trip feels like. I kept thinking about it for months afterwards.

I also recommend "The hedge knight" if you like the game of thrones books. It's written in a completely different style (much less grim). Just like the main books the characters are amazing and it has a ton of secrets & hints but the payoffs come much more quickly because it's a short story.

Also another tip; it can be fun & healthy to take massive walks while listening. I also try running sometimes but the running seems to take me out of the story.

Big fan of these recently.

The Rational Male - Rollo Tomassi
Kindly Inquisitors - Jonathan Rauch

good listens.

On July 17 2020 05:44 Jelle wrote: +1 animal farm. I listened to that book on audiobook exhausted after a shitty day of work. I had 1 beer and was lying in a couch and planned to listen to 1 chapter expecting nothing, but it was so weirdly captivating to me I couldn't stop and ran through it in 1 session. It takes like 4 hours I think. I never do any drugs but those 4 hours felt like what I imagine having a good trip feels like. I kept thinking about it for months afterwards. I also recommend "The hedge knight" if you like the game of thrones books. It's written in a completely different style (much less grim). Just like the main books the characters are amazing and it has a ton of secrets & hints but the payoffs come much more quickly because it's a short story. Also another tip; it can be fun & healthy to take massive walks while listening. I also try running sometimes but the running seems to take me out of the story.

Read animal farm when I was 14, it's on my list to repeat, especially since its not that long

On July 16 2020 16:01 Daut wrote: Show nested quote + On July 16 2020 10:54 blackjacki2 wrote:   On July 16 2020 02:31 Daut wrote: I have many recommendations. Gonna need some narrowing down by genre though. What's most appealing to you? -fantasy -scifi -historical fiction -fiction -self help -non fiction, various genres -history Personally I want to consume a lot of the classics, i.e. the books that show up on the "100 books to read before you die." The only times I've read those kind of books was in school and my brain wasn't fully developed then and I didn't appreciate them because they were school work and not something I wanted to read in the first place. But I also plan to alternate a famous classic book with a book just for fun. So I'll take recommendations for anything. I'm typically not a fan of any adventure/fantasy books or history books. I typically prefer non-fiction. Next book I just started is The Checlist Manifesto by Atul Gawande   In his latest bestseller, Atul Gawande shows what the simple idea of the checklist reveals about the complexity of our lives and how we can deal with it. The modern world has given us stupendous know-how. Yet avoidable failures continue to plague us in health care, government, the law, the financial industry—in almost every realm of organized activity. And the reason is simple: the volume and complexity of knowledge today has exceeded our ability as individuals to properly deliver it to people—consistently, correctly, safely. We train longer, specialize more, use ever-advancing technologies, and still we fail. Atul Gawande makes a compelling argument that we can do better, using the simplest of methods: the checklist. In riveting stories, he reveals what checklists can do, what they can’t, and how they could bring about striking improvements in a variety of fields, from medicine and disaster recovery to professions and businesses of all kinds. And the insights are making a difference. Already, a simple surgical checklist from the World Health Organization designed by following the ideas described here has been adopted in more than twenty countries as a standard for care and has been heralded as “the biggest clinical invention in thirty years” (The Independent). https://www.businessinsider.com/100-b...e-should-read-amazon-goodreads-2015-3 I've probably read about 50-60% of these. Highly recommend: 1984 Fahrenheit 451 Animal Farm A Tale of Two Cities Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Brave New World Frankenstein Catch-22 Ender's Game Game of Thrones (and followups) The Old Man and the Sea The Pillars of the Earth (and sequels) A Prayer for Owen Meany Slaughterhouse-Five Recommend: To Kill a Mockingbird Hamlet The Little Prince (I used to practice French) The Handmaid's Tale Adventures of Sherlock Holmes On my to read list: Wuthering Heights Anna Karenina One Hundred Years of Solitude Crime and Punishment Siddhartha The Brothers Karamazov

Thanks for the recommendations. I think I will probably average 3 books/month so this is a great start.

Here's another one I really enjoyed, 'Win Bigly' by Scott Adams. It's very politically charged but it can be nice if you want to hear the arguments for the trump side.

The writer is absolutely bonkers - he's the creator of Dilbert (an ancient cartoon) and I think he did too much drugs. His book is kind of a love letter to Donald Trump. He got fired 2x before he came a cartoonist because of diversity (they needed someone of color to reach a quota and he's white), and he has to pay insane taxes because of how rich he is, so I think I can understand how he ended up leaning right. This is just my opinion though, he claims to be completely neutral and open to both parties.

The thing is, he's also very smart and creative. In this book he presents a bunch of ideas that I haven't heard anywhere else. He also re-hashes a bunch of famous ideas though but it's good stuff. I liked the book so much that I also bought his new one ('Loserthink') but I didn't like that one - it didn't have anything original in it imo.

I still don't like Trump but I definitely learned a lot from that one. Sometimes the problem I have with audiobooks is that I end up reading the ones that contain stuff I already know and agree with so I can nod along and say "yeah, exactly, I knew that cause I'm really smart". It's only when your POV gets converted that you really get the max out of it.

very interesting, Jelle. i will look into that

On July 18 2020 04:23 Jelle wrote: Here's another one I really enjoyed, 'Win Bigly' by Scott Adams. It's very politically charged but it can be nice if you want to hear the arguments for the trump side. The writer is absolutely bonkers - he's the creator of Dilbert (an ancient cartoon) and I think he did too much drugs. His book is kind of a love letter to Donald Trump. He got fired 2x before he came a cartoonist because of diversity (they needed someone of color to reach a quota and he's white), and he has to pay insane taxes because of how rich he is, so I think I can understand how he ended up leaning right. This is just my opinion though, he claims to be completely neutral and open to both parties. The thing is, he's also very smart and creative. In this book he presents a bunch of ideas that I haven't heard anywhere else. He also re-hashes a bunch of famous ideas though but it's good stuff. I liked the book so much that I also bought his new one ('Loserthink') but I didn't like that one - it didn't have anything original in it imo. I still don't like Trump but I definitely learned a lot from that one. Sometimes the problem I have with audiobooks is that I end up reading the ones that contain stuff I already know and agree with so I can nod along and say "yeah, exactly, I knew that cause I'm really smart". It's only when your POV gets converted that you really get the max out of it.

Scott Adams is frustrating, he's a complete lunatic and almost always argues in bad faith when dealing with politics. I did really like a couple of his books (God's Debris + sequel) and when he was less political his ideas were much more neutral/unbiased.

yeah I agree with all of those, lol. I didn't read God's Debris maybe I should check that out

Here's a special audio-video reading of The Conquest of Bread

got me loco

but it's a real reading!

I hope she reads the whole book. She's up to chapter 4. She's "taken" unfortunately but she holds a place in my heart.