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So I am trying out blogging. I'll try to post some interesting things that I see and a little comments on my game.
Basically I was a 100nl/200nl mainly player, now I am back to 50nl after a semi heavy withdrawal to pay school and for some reason suck really bad and can't get back up yet. I seem to be getting too angry at some ridiculous suck outs in a row and combining with bad plays always make my real good session become a flat even one.
Anyways, I am reading Greenstein's book and saw this really interesting comment he made on mice.
CONDITIONED GAMBLER:
Mice are put in a cage with a button that they can push with their paws. The button is connected so that the experimenter has the option of allowing the button to give the mouse an electric shock or give the mouse a food pellet from a chute next to the button.
Mouse #1 is given a shock the first time he presses the button. He spends most of his time away from the area where the button is. If the button ever gets pressed again, it will be accidental. Mouse #1 has been conditioned to associating pressing the button with getting an electrical shock.
Mouse #2 gets a good pellet when he presses the button. He presses the button often and seems to enjoy his environment. But after many presses, Mouse #2 is given a shock. He waits a little while and tries again. If given another shock, mouse #2 will stay away from the button. He believes, and rightly so, that something has changed the function of the button. If he gets hungry enough, he may try the button again. Mouse #2 was originally conditioned to associate the button press with receipt of a food pellet but now that conditioning has been extinguished.
Now the most interesting case: occasionally feeding and shocking mouse #3. First we give mouse #3 a food pellet, then a shock, then a couple of food pellets, then a few shocks. Mouse #3 realizes that sometimes he will get food pellets and sometimes shocks, but he cannot predict what is coming. Once we have him conditioned in this fashion, we stop giving him food pellets and only give him shocks. Mouse #3 has learned that eventually he will get a food pellet if he presses enough times. What do you think he will do if we never give him a food pellet? The answer: He will shock himself to death. This experiment shows that intermittent reinforcement is the hardest kind to extinguish.
Now think of a food pellet as a winning session and the shock as a losing session. People who win enough times to keep their hopes up are able to withstand the shock of losing. This intermittent reinforcement may cause people to keep gambling until they have lost everything.
So, I thought that was a pretty interesting analogy. We, here at LP pretty much all fit in as mouse #3 but with different order of shocks and food pellets.
Anyways thats it for my 1st blog.
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Joe Czech Republic. Feb 23 2007 04:34. Posts 5987 | | |
hehe good point  |
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yea, actually. That's something to think about. |
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Baalim Mexico. Feb 23 2007 05:37. Posts 34262 | | |
fucking Lee stop the shocks and give me a food pellet for a change ok? |
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Breeze Bulgaria. Feb 23 2007 06:41. Posts 802 | | |
| | On February 23 2007 04:37 Baal wrote:
fucking Lee stop the shocks and give me a food pellet for a change ok? |
But why, he already has you conditioned |
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Gumster Sweden. Feb 23 2007 08:20. Posts 2291 | | |
some get shocked so much it's scaring.... |
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Gumster Sweden. Feb 23 2007 08:20. Posts 2291 | | |
and insanely discouraging |
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Gumster Sweden. Feb 23 2007 08:20. Posts 2291 | | |
especially when every other fucking mouse gets so much fucking food it's insane |
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Minion Brasil. Feb 23 2007 08:32. Posts 2112 | | | |
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mfcmurray United States. Feb 23 2007 10:23. Posts 1385 | | |
^^^^^^^^^^^^^shocked himself to death obv. |
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lucifer Sweden. Feb 23 2007 10:51. Posts 5955 | | |
hide the mouse? wtf? wasn't the mice in a cage? 
anyway. yeah. shockity shock shock shock. always happen to me at the end of the month.
then half into the month i rush. then at end of month im screwed again. |
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those poor mouses  |
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