Am i wrong?

oh okay, so you win $3.4k off a freeroll and don't want to give him any of it? your original condition was way too powerful then.

lol wtf why would i give him money of my freeroll -.-

stuff i pay with my own cash is totally out of deal and he agrees with it, its not the point

He's mad because your only ending the deal because you came into some new money. You're not down all that much and you probably should at least attempt to play out the deal.

What you're doing is the equivalent of "well sucks to be you I have money now so screw our little agreement" and its somewhat rude of you. Its certainly not against the rules you two established but it is definetely not very nice of you and certainly not very curtious of you to just quit the deal like that. Don't expect people to stake you if you're going to drop the agreement as soon as something good happens for you. :D.

i made it clear i was allowed to drop the deal if for some reason i no longer needed it

if we made the deal in a way where im not allowed to end it it would be a different story

HIT N RUN

01:03:14 PM] - Floofy : well i wont be gay if im
loosing, aka the
point isnt to play 10 sngs and end it if i
lost lol


so lets play 150 which is a nothing sample size and if im down but somehow have money from freerolls im going to fuck you


yes this is very gay what youre doing

it was a 10 day stake and im normally suposed to play like 200-300 sngs

the part "im allowed to quit" was clearly part of our deal unless i play a ridiculous ammount of like only 30

Didn't read the post yet, but gonna say "Yes."

Can't you just play it back to 1k and then end it? It'd look a lot better.

very gay indeed

just complete the stake you cheap whore

tbh i would rather pay him 270 than complete the stake pretty much

and if im going to pay him when i loose and give 50% when i win, gettin staked is pretty useless

and i didnt specify i wanted the right to end the deal for fun, i did want it for a reason

not enough details given

The previous times you were staked, you say he made 600$ from you. What about you? Did you make money to? Or did you just come out even?
If you both made money the 2 previous times you were staked, and not just him, and then this third time, you quit early, and he came out losing money, and you neither ahead or down...

Can't you see how that is bad business? It's burning a bridge. No offense to you here Floofy and hopefully it never happens, but what about the next time you need to be staked, you think he is going to want to be a pal and help you out? Knowing that if you are down, you could just quit?

I understand how it was agreed you can quit at anytime. But the fact that your leaving him in the hole this transaction is what he is mad about. Like Benjamin said, it's like haha don't need to do this crappy job anymore, I won the lotto! F* YOU I QUIT.

Not exactly but you get my point

Now if the first two times this happened, you got nothing out of it or lost something - besides time cuz it is a game you wanted to play, then I could definitely see your point more. But like I said, not enough info.

Either way hope this helps

oh, didn't see your post before mine, went afk and then replied

I guess in a nutshell is if he's your friend, yes you are wrong to leave him in the hole alone. If you were a true friend, you would be in the hole with him trying to get each other out.

Now if it was strictly business to you, no hard feelings would be the best response.

But it feels like it's somewhere in the middle, which then I would do what you mentioned, and pay the 270 at the very least as to not burn a bridge

i dont see how its bad business

his stake was good twice, then third time we ran very bad and he lost money. He is up overall

i think overall his investement was +EV. I dont see why i would make it even more -EV for me (i lost tons of EV in this) when i can just end deal which is totally whitin the rules


about lotto analogy, this is exactly why i specified to roald i wanted ability to end deal when i took the third stake because i knew i was likely to either hit a score in a freeroll, or hit a score in some FFP thing etc. But i still wanted to do at least 100 sngs so his investement be +EV

if u won the lotto would u stay at ur crappy job considering when u got hired u specified ur boss u were likely to hit lotto soon and wanted ability to quit at any time? i would

me: 3 options: 1. play till the end of the 10 days 2. send me the full $1000 back now 3. send me $7xx and we're finished
me: btw I have no problem that you ran badly that was to be expected at some point
Floofy - I BUY T$ ok whatever i doesnt feel bad i warned u i wanted the right to end the deal and i feel i played a high ammount of sngs (important isnt so much the time, but the quantity)
me: I'm not denying that you have the right
- Floofy - I BUY T$ diffenrence between right and being unfair
- Floofy - I BUY T$ many things are legal and immoral
me: well we have a clear difference of opinion here. we've both made our positions clear now its your move
- Floofy - I BUY T$ im gonna send 730$
me: ok gl to you then

note how the last thing I said was "gl". I don't think those are the words of someone who is "really mad". My net gain from you over more than 3 weeks was roughly $300. I had to play nl50 during that time or else be under rolled. I don't think anyone loves moving down stakes. But, what actually matters is that I feel I could've made more than $300 had I played nl100 the whole month. You're implying that you played a significant amount. Well in that case, I have no objective reason to continue working with you. I could play $1 mtts and I am sure those would be profitable as well. Also, what am I supposed to do, send you $1000 again next week and eat the $270 loss? Doesn't make sense. Good luck, hope that $3400 last or that whoever might stake you next time doesn't read what the consensus thought here.

lol "eat the 270 loss"
you won 350$ total, that was the first time i had such a bad run at 25$ sngs.

I honnestly think i would be up 70-75%+ of the time easily in a 150 sngs sample

anyways if you wanted me not to be able to end the deal u shoulda specified that when making the deal, because i think i would not have took the stake

oh and if you think 350$ interest for a 1000$ loan over 4 weeks is not good, then with my new 3700 br i will gladly lend you 1000$ for such an interest

The 2 previous stakings do not matter in any way other than a building of trust.

Example: You get a loan from a bank, and you pay it off. Then you get another loan, and pay that one off. You get a third loan, and skip out on it and never pay it. Do you think your credit should be good or bad? And what does the first two loans have to do with anything? The first two loans build a trust system. That is all. The previous two loans do not justify anything that happens in the third loan. Does this make sense? You should not keep bringing up the history when its the present thats the issue.

As I stated before, there is nothing technically wrong in going the way you are, except the fact you are burning a bridge, which generally speaking, you do not want to do.

Again hoped I helped you answer your question.