DF_Newb's Balls of Steal

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JonnyCosMo United States. Apr 06 2007 20:49. Posts 7292

Ok so maybe I'm not nearly as good as I think I am. Today I started off my session pretty late into the afternoon because I got caught up doing a lot of other things during the day. The tables weren't as juicy as I would have hoped, but whatever, there were still some fish in the sea. I then proceeded to play the following hand vs DF_Newb:

Submitted by : JonnyCosMo

PokerStars Game #9288346314: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/06 - 20:14:52 (ET)
Table 'Sabine' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 2: Biden4prez08 ($220.85 in chips)
Seat 4: DF_Newb ($210.70 in chips)
Seat 5: JonnyCosMo ($214.75 in chips)
Seat 6: alexandrecc ($264.55 in chips)
alexandrecc: posts small blind $1
Biden4prez08: posts big blind $2

Holecards
Dealt to JonnyCosMo
DF_Newb: raises $5 to $7
JonnyCosMo: calls $7
alexandrecc: folds
Biden4prez08: folds

Flop (Pot : $17)


DF_Newb: bets $12
JonnyCosMo: calls $12

Turn (Pot : $41)


skoalboy50 joins the table at seat #3
DF_Newb: bets $32
JonnyCosMo: calls $32

River (Pot : $105)


DF_Newb: checks
JonnyCosMo: bets $163.75 and is all-in
DF_Newb said, "yo what"
DF_Newb: calls $159.70 and is all-in

Showdown
JonnyCosMo: shows (a pair of Sixes)
DF_Newb: shows (a pair of Sixes - Ace+King kicker)
DF_Newb collected $422.40 from pot

Summary
Total pot $424.40 | Rake $2
Board
Seat 2: Biden4prez08 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: DF_Newb showed and won ($422.40) with a pair of Sixes
Seat 5: JonnyCosMo (button) showed and lost with a pair of Sixes
Seat 6: alexandrecc (small blind) folded before Flop

ZAAAAP!!! Ok so let me take you through my thought process on this hand. I have 98 suited preflop, DF_Newb raises, I call, standard. I believe he precieves me as a tight/solid player incapable of making moves because in all honesty, I try to avoid making moves vs fellow LPer's / friends. So I flop an open-ended straight draw on a ace-high flop but there is a flush draw which I dont have also present, so he does a very standard c-bet and I dont take much time and call. This is where it gets interesting... because from my time playing with DF_Newb I know he doesn't back down when he thinks he's getting floated light so I suspected there was a good chance he'd double barrel with air a high % of the time. I dont really want to go into why I had this other read, because he probably will be reading this, but let's say I know that his range here on the turn is this: 66, 77, A7s, A6s, AQ, AK, or absolute air. I say this is air more than 60% of the time easily (at the time I was feeling that 3 out of 4 times this is air). The general idea is that I dont think he likes to put himself into a spot to bet/fold a marginal hand on this turn (such as AJ or weaker) and I suspect he check-calls this turn more than he bet/folds it.

This is where I feel I made a mistake, if I know there is a high chance he has absolute crap when he leads this turn, then I should have just raised him and pot committed myself. At the time, I know that a good portion of the deck is a scare card, because I planned on bluffing the clubs as well if they hit (assuming he checks to me, or attempts some sort of blocker bet I have fold equity to smash). To make a long story short, I decided to take the safe route and call, just to see what he does on the river. I wasn't exactly sure if he was crazy enough to triple barrel with air, but I was kinda hoping that he wasn't that suicidal and that he'd just give up at this point with a bluff.

River came a 6 pairing the bottom card. I know he thinks thats a terrible card to bluff. I hope he knows that I know that the 6 is a terrible card to bluff as well. He checks to me... which immediately tells me the following things: He doesn't have a hand he thinks he can value bet. It's possible that he could have been checking a monster, having me read on a draw that just missed in hopes I bluff the river. But that makes little sense to me since as I stated above, I believe he views me as a tight/solid player incapable of making moves AND I believe he knows that I know how bad of a card that river is to bluff at. It makes no sense that he'd check a hand to me here, and since I had him on a fairly narrow range of hands on the turn, I believe he now has air, unfortunately 9-high doesn't have showdown value vs air...

So I brainlessly forgetting to think about the following things: What could I be representing here? I'm capable of real thin value bets / value shoves, but I'm not sure he's seen any of them yet. Like, there is a fair size range of hands I will play this exact line with: AK, AQ, 6Xs w/ flush draw on the flop, or sometimes even any ace thinking I can steal a chop. Sadly, I dont really have a reason to think he knows this about me unless he's seen some of my hh's I've posted in the past month on LP (which I shouldn't really expect him to stalk me on this or anything). Thinking back on it, I think a bet of $85 would have done an excellent job on this river. The shove just looks too much like I want a fold here, and was a dead give away.

So after getting the wind knocked out of my sails from this hand, I decided to take a break. I might get on and play later tonight, but right now I just want to review my session. I was up 3 buyins at one point during my session, but only ended up $80 when I quit. My hats off to you DF_Newb, you got some balls sir. I feel totally owned right now.

2 votes

Everyone needs to see that you are king of the castle - PoorUser

Last edit: 06/04/2007 20:57

Critterer United Kingdom. Apr 06 2007 21:01. Posts 5337

nice reads by both of you tbh

LudaHid: dam.ned dam.ned dam.ned. LudaHid: dam.ned northwooden as..hole

Muck21 Russian Federation. Apr 06 2007 22:01. Posts 540

indeed the allin just looks like a busted fd

Muck it, bitch

TalentedTom This user is a quality poster

Canada. Apr 06 2007 22:07. Posts 20070

you got served

Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light not our darkness that most frightens us and as we let our own lights shine we unconsciously give other people permision to do the same

FrinkX United States. Apr 06 2007 23:04. Posts 7561

DF_Newb sucks cock and ur stressing about this hand too much. The only ownage was the ownage you inflicted upon yourself.

bitch on a pension suck my dong

FrinkX United States. Apr 06 2007 23:05. Posts 7561

All he has is balls. He makes these calldowns nonstop, its why his city says "BUSTO" and he plays 5/10 one day and 1/2 the next. He's a degen.

bitch on a pension suck my dong