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WilsWils Canada. Nov 21 2007 15:23. Posts 285

i cannot handle the terribility of a mindfuck that is 6max 50 and 25nl.

I ended up getting my br to around 900$, then having it get shit on by a fuckload of messed up hands.

The mix of fucking horrible players / aggrotards that make plays that just make your mouth drop is absolutely unreal. It is extremely difficult to put people on a range of hands when they 3bet you with 39s and spike 2pair vs AA or whatnot. People 3 betting with 33 from the SB, spiking a set and leading into my TPTK, etc..extremely, extremely frustrating in 100bb situations. Its like, i feel as if i can definetly beat this limit. Just a shitload of messed up plays / setups that totally destroy my confidence in my own ability. I've even dropped down from 6 tables to 4 to focus even harder on reading players, but even then i still find that hard to do in some cases with the mix of regs + fishies...

I'm kinda speechless at the moment . my br is currently at 400$ after getting smashed in several weird cooler pots. I keep reviewing them to think if i could have gotten away, and its insanely diffucult given the relative skill level of my opponents , their playing style, and the given buyin limit (100 bb) - it feels as if when i lay it down i had the best hand, but when i put the rest in im behind...variance + frustration = help

Full Tilt Poker Game #4251382358: Table Armor (6 max) - $0.10/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 16:56:08 ET - 2007/11/21
Seat 1: igorino ($12.10)
Seat 2: WilsWils ($34.45)
Seat 3: salamanden ($25.30)
Seat 4: Galwin320 ($40.55)
Seat 5: Trilogy1983 ($51.15)
Galwin320 posts the small blind of $0.10
Trilogy1983 posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to WilsWils [4d 4h]
igorino calls $0.25
WilsWils calls $0.25
salamanden calls $0.25
Galwin320 calls $0.15
BENJAHITTS sits down
Trilogy1983 has 15 seconds left to act
Trilogy1983 checks
*** FLOP *** [5c 9s 4s]
BENJAHITTS adds $5
Galwin320 checks
Trilogy1983 has 15 seconds left to act
Trilogy1983 bets $0.75
igorino calls $0.75
WilsWils raises to $3.50
salamanden folds
Galwin320 folds
Trilogy1983 has 15 seconds left to act
Trilogy1983 calls $2.75
igorino folds
*** TURN *** [5c 9s 4s]

Trilogy1983 checks
WilsWils bets $5.75
Trilogy1983 calls $5.75
*** RIVER *** [5c 9s 4s 5d]

Trilogy1983 bets $9.25
WilsWils raises to $24.95, and is all in
Trilogy1983 calls $15.70
*** SHOW DOWN ***
WilsWils shows [4d 4h] a full house, Fours full of Fives
Trilogy1983 shows [5s 9d] a full house, Fives full of Nines
Trilogy1983 wins the pot ($67.40) with a full house, Fives full of Nines
WilsWils is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $70.40 | Rake $3
Board: [5c 9s 4s 5d Qs]
Seat 1: igorino folded on the Flop
Seat 2: WilsWils showed [4d 4h] and lost with a full house, Fours full of Fives
Seat 3: salamanden (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: Galwin320 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: Trilogy1983 (big blind) showed [5s 9d] and won ($67.40) with a full house, Fives full of Nines

Full Tilt Poker Game #4235655473: Table Bangle (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 2:33:15 ET - 2007/11/20
Seat 1: gasmangus ($44.45)
Seat 2: TOBTHATANK ($55.75)
Seat 3: xx4020xx ($50.70)
Seat 4: cutie121 ($60.50)
Seat 5: WilsWils ($52.60)
Seat 6: confused30s ($70.35)
WilsWils posts the small blind of $0.25
confused30s posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to WilsWils [Qc Qs]
gasmangus folds
TOBTHATANK folds
xx4020xx folds
gasmangus is feeling confused
cutie121 raises to $1.75
WilsWils raises to $5
confused30s folds
cutie121 calls $3.25
*** FLOP *** [4s 5s Ts]
WilsWils bets $8
cutie121 raises to $16
WilsWils has 15 seconds left to act
WilsWils raises to $47.60, and is all in
cutie121 calls $31.60
WilsWils shows [Qc Qs]
cutie121 shows [Td Tc]
*** TURN *** [4s 5s Ts]

*** RIVER *** [4s 5s Ts 7c]

WilsWils shows a flush, Queen high
cutie121 shows a full house, Tens full of Sevens
cutie121 wins the pot ($102.70) with a full house, Tens full of Sevens
WilsWils is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $105.70 | Rake $3
Board: [4s 5s Ts 7c 7s]
Seat 1: gasmangus didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: TOBTHATANK didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: xx4020xx didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: cutie121 (button) showed [Td Tc] and won ($102.70) with a full house, Tens full of Sevens
Seat 5: WilsWils (small blind) showed [Qc Qs] and lost with a flush, Queen high
Seat 6: confused30s (big blind) folded before the Flop

Full Tilt Poker Game #4243552418: Table Arville (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:37:23 ET - 2007/11/20
Seat 1: WilsWils ($64.95)
Seat 2: Rounderup88 ($34.65)
Seat 3: JessiJ ($50)
Seat 4: mindlessplayer ($23.50)
Seat 5: JohnnyScotch ($54.40)
Seat 6: hauleybear ($44.60)
Rounderup88 posts the small blind of $0.25
JessiJ posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to WilsWils [7s 5s]
mindlessplayer folds
JohnnyScotch folds
hauleybear folds
WilsWils raises to $1.75
Rounderup88 folds
JessiJ calls $1.25
*** FLOP *** [2h 5c 7h]
JessiJ checks
WilsWils bets $3
JessiJ raises to $9
WilsWils has 15 seconds left to act
WilsWils raises to $20
JessiJ has 15 seconds left to act
JessiJ raises to $48.25, and is all in
WilsWils calls $28.25
JessiJ shows [2d 2s]
WilsWils shows [7s 5s]
*** TURN *** [2h 5c 7h]

*** RIVER *** [2h 5c 7h Ac]

JessiJ shows three of a kind, Twos
WilsWils shows two pair, Sevens and Fives
JessiJ wins the pot ($97.25) with three of a kind, Twos
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $100.25 | Rake $3
Board: [2h 5c 7h Ac Tc]
Seat 1: WilsWils (button) showed [7s 5s] and lost with two pair, Sevens and Fives
Seat 2: Rounderup88 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: JessiJ (big blind) showed [2d 2s] and won ($97.25) with three of a kind, Twos
Seat 4: mindlessplayer didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: JohnnyScotch didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: hauleybear didn't bet (folded)

Full Tilt Poker Game #4051171793: Table Misty Glenn - $0.10/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 2:03:48 ET - 2007/11/03
Seat 1: try2bme ($18.90)
Seat 2: trobone ($33.20)
Seat 3: Original_Thrila ($24.85)
Seat 4: FOB99705 ($14.55)
Seat 5: Nevrast ($5)
Seat 6: beamtwu ($5.70)
Seat 8: RSMS9999 ($23.20)
Seat 9: WilsWils ($32.85)
beamtwu posts the small blind of $0.10
RSMS9999 posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to WilsWils [Qd Kd]
WilsWils raises to $0.85
try2bme calls $0.85
trobone folds
Original_Thrila calls $0.85
FOB99705 folds
Nevrast folds
beamtwu folds
RSMS9999 folds
*** FLOP *** [3d Jd 8d]
WilsWils bets $2
try2bme folds
Original_Thrila has 15 seconds left to act
Original_Thrila calls $2
*** TURN *** [3d Jd 8d]

WilsWils bets $6
Original_Thrila has 15 seconds left to act
Original_Thrila calls $6
*** RIVER *** [3d Jd 8d 3c]

WilsWils bets $6
Original_Thrila has 15 seconds left to act
Original_Thrila raises to $16, and is all in
WilsWils calls $10
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Original_Thrila shows [Ad 9d] a flush, Ace high
WilsWils shows [Qd Kd] a flush, King high
Original_Thrila wins the pot ($48.40) with a flush, Ace high
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $50.90 | Rake $2.50
Board: [3d Jd 8d 3c 5c]
Seat 1: try2bme folded on the Flop
Seat 2: trobone didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: Original_Thrila showed [Ad 9d] and won ($48.40) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 4: FOB99705 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: Nevrast (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: beamtwu (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 8: RSMS9999 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 9: WilsWils showed [Qd Kd] and lost with a flush, King high

Full Tilt Poker Game #4246598153: Table Melissa (6 max) - $0.10/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 3:12:23 ET - 2007/11/21
Seat 1: zammie2 ($28.70)
Seat 2: WilsWils ($25.25)
Seat 3: LOLminbet ($25)
Seat 4: OTPlayer ($50.35)
Seat 5: medman1_98 ($21.35)
Seat 6: walkyre ($15.90)
zammie2 posts the small blind of $0.10
WilsWils posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to WilsWils [5h 8h]
LOLminbet folds
OTPlayer folds
medman1_98 folds
walkyre raises to $0.85
zammie2 folds
WilsWils calls $0.60
*** FLOP *** [8s 5s Ac]
WilsWils checks
walkyre bets $1.80
WilsWils raises to $4.75
walkyre raises to $15.05, and is all in
WilsWils calls $10.30
walkyre shows [2s 4s]
WilsWils shows [5h 8h]
*** TURN *** [8s 5s Ac]

*** RIVER *** [8s 5s Ac As]

walkyre shows a flush, Ace high
WilsWils shows two pair, Aces and Eights
walkyre wins the pot ($30.35) with a flush, Ace high
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $31.90 | Rake $1.55
Board: [8s 5s Ac As Jh]
Seat 1: zammie2 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: WilsWils (big blind) showed [5h 8h] and lost with two pair, Aces and Eights
Seat 3: LOLminbet didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: OTPlayer didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: medman1_98 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: walkyre (button) showed [2s 4s] and won ($30.35) with a flush, Ace high

This last hand is against a guy who was very liberal with raising with draws, figure 2P is good here and fairly ahead of most of the things i could put him on (my image at this table was quite hyper-aggressive as well) lo and behold he actually has a hand when i have one , but at least i wasnt drawing dead -_-...

Full Tilt Poker Game #4246450722: Table Udine (6 max) - $0.10/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 2:47:16 ET - 2007/11/21
Seat 1: jgame99 ($26.10)
Seat 2: WilsWils ($34.15)
Seat 3: OTPlayer ($25)
Seat 4: phonebooth07 ($39.10)
Seat 5: diztant ($35.85), is sitting out
Seat 6: Stud Duck 22 ($28.90)
WilsWils posts the small blind of $0.10
OTPlayer has 5 seconds left to act
OTPlayer posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to WilsWils [6d Kh]
phonebooth07 folds
Stud Duck 22 folds
jgame99 calls $0.25
WilsWils calls $0.15
OTPlayer checks
*** FLOP *** [5h Kc 6h]
WilsWils bets $0.75
OTPlayer folds
diztant has returned
jgame99 raises to $2.25
WilsWils raises to $33.90, and is all in
jgame99 has 15 seconds left to act
jgame99 has requested TIME
jgame99: 666 or draw?
jgame99 calls $23.60, and is all in
WilsWils shows [6d Kh]
jgame99 shows [5c 5s]
Uncalled bet of $8.05 returned to WilsWils
*** TURN *** [5h Kc 6h]

*** RIVER *** [5h Kc 6h Ah]

WilsWils shows two pair, Kings and Sixes
jgame99 shows three of a kind, Fives
jgame99 wins the pot ($49.85) with three of a kind, Fives
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $52.45 | Rake $2.60
Board: [5h Kc 6h Ah 2d]
Seat 1: jgame99 (button) showed [5c 5s] and won ($49.85) with three of a kind, Fives
Seat 2: WilsWils (small blind) showed [6d Kh] and lost with two pair, Kings and Sixes
Seat 3: OTPlayer (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: phonebooth07 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: diztant is sitting out
Seat 6: Stud Duck 22 didn't bet (folded)

Anyways, dropped about 4 BI's at 50nl 6max to hands like the above, and then another 6 @ 25NL with hands that i dont think were able to get away from.... i.e

1 hand, villian is 3 betting me constantly after having picked up that i was raising 3x every orbit (was trying to build a aggro image cheap to get paid). I finally realize that he is also 3 betting me with dogshit half the time, so after he 3bets me for the 3rd time in a row, i flat with a mid-strong suited ace. Flop my TPTK, and C/R his cbet, he shoves for like 20bb more and he tables a set

I'm really, really trying to figure out what big leaks i have, because im humble enough to realize i've played about 40k hands at around the 25nl level and still havent grinded up to 1000 br yet. I'm reviewing my hands everytime, and yea i do spot a few leaks that i HAVE fixed (which were betting too light for value, playing draws too strong/weak depending on opponents , and not front betting my strong hands enough), but , as im sure that most low stakes LPer's can agree, it's horrible frustrating when you have this whole gameplan and read on a certain limit and its general populous of players, and there will always be the random retard who pulls an outrageous bluff , that to your experience , is a line that is strong as hell (for e.g he c/c's your flop cbet, then c/c the turn, then front bets the river for 2x the pot(!) ) - You know, plays that make you sit at your computer and go, what the fuck is he trying to represent here?

I know i'm a good player and i can beat these stakes and get up to around 100nl which is where i was before, but god it's frustrating getting pummeled on the roller coaster ride that is grinding micro limits...this has been a crazy month. I'm ALOT more comfortable @ 6max than i am at FR, simply because i feel like im in far more control of the majority of the tables i play, since many of the fish cannot grasp the concept of 3betting with a wider range not only for image, but to build future value..

ugh im just kinda emo i guess, which i shouldnt be since it is in essence just a game (Still, -6BI days in <450 hands is craziness)

rant over

no pics today

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Last edit: 21/11/2007 15:34

PplusAD Germany. Nov 21 2007 15:43. Posts 7180

could someone tell him how to post correct Hands in blogs ?
I dont know how to do it either T_T

U see what i did there with A8 ? He 4 bets and there we go insta jam A8 : ---booooom -- . hahahaha ( Krantz)

MayZerG United Kingdom. Nov 21 2007 16:07. Posts 2123

I feel the exact same way that you do, i know i can fucking crush the donkeys on 25NL and 50NL, and i just keep getting badbeated to hell .

I like to hold all the nuts - CrownRoyal

rgfdxm United States. Nov 21 2007 16:52. Posts 1514

PplusAD, I think you can't post multiple hands in one blog post in [HAND=XXXXXX] format, which is why so many people just post a bunch of links to the individual hand histories.

lachlan Australia. Nov 21 2007 19:44. Posts 6991

play full ring =D

full ring