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bigbb33   Canada. Nov 24 2007 18:03. Posts 3679
Saving this post cuz it's so damn good. Too bad I have to cashout and can't put it into effect.


  On November 24 2007 09:03 [vital]Myth wrote:
didn't read the thread, but you absolutely must move up aggressively and move down conservatively.

whenever you have 25 bi for the next level, move to it. hell, if you don't need to make any cashouts any time soon, you should move up at 20. BUT, if you lose 2 or 3 bi at that level, move back down, simple and plain. do some evaluation of your own play there, and more importantly try to make some serious assessments of how your opponents played there. make these assessments in general terms (e.g. "the game had a lot less preflop aggression than my previous stakes" and in specific terms (e.g. "this regular, ____, likes to do a lot more squeezing than i've ever seen anyone do".

you'll NEVER take serious damage to your bankroll with this approach, and you'll learn as quickly as possible. every time you move up, it's a quick shot and a learning experience, it's not any kind of major change in your poker playing. don't view it as a monumental event for yourself, because you'll be a lot more prone to tilt when you are heavily emotionally invested in your success at the next level.

the first, second, third, etc. time you move up to a certain level, you probably won't hit the ground running. you'll most likely take a shot and fail a few times before catching on to a distinct advantage that you can sustain. but you sure as hell won't learn to beat 2/4 by playing 100k hands at 1/2. you'll learn to beat 2/4 by putting in some hands at 2/4 and doing your best to study the players in that game.

and honestly, you're fairly likely to run well and make some money when you move up anyway. there's no shame in moving back down, even if you are still up at the next level. so if you move to 2/4, go on a heater and win 10 buyins, then lose a few back and realize you actually aren't sure how to beat the game, you can still move back down. just don't get married to a false perception of success and progress. if you move up and run well, then you just ran well and have no reason to prematurely believe that you can sustain a positive winrate at the next level. but if you played well and believe you have an edge, give yourself some credit and ask some players who have had success at that level whether or not your thoughts on the game are correct.





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KwarK   United Kingdom. Nov 24 2007 18:51. Posts 1019

Thanks for sharing that post. Decent bit of poker wisdom.


MezmerizePLZ    United States. Nov 24 2007 18:52. Posts 2598


  On November 24 2007 17:03 bigbb33 wrote:
Saving this post cuz it's so damn good. Too bad I have to cashout and can't put it into effect.

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MezmerizePLZ    United States. Nov 24 2007 18:52. Posts 2598

SHIP THAT SHIT


YoMeR   United States. Nov 24 2007 19:12. Posts 12438

pfft you can only take this approach if you don't live off your roll.

life throws bad beats too so you should leave yourself with some wiggling space.

eZ Life. 

[vital]Myth    United States. Nov 24 2007 19:25. Posts 12159


  On November 24 2007 18:12 YoMeR wrote:
pfft you can only take this approach if you don't live off your roll.

life throws bad beats too so you should leave yourself with some wiggling space.

yeah, allow me to quote one of my subsequent posts in the thread:


  On November 24 2007 10:49 [vital]Myth wrote:
i should highlight one really really important thing that i didn't stress enough though:

my advice, i think, is really good for your progress up the stakes and also your development as a player over time if you are not financially dependent upon poker as income. if you have to make regular cashouts, you can't really move up that way.

Eh, I can go a few more orbits in life, before taxes blind me out - PoorUser 

[vital]Myth    United States. Nov 24 2007 19:26. Posts 12159

btw thx i'm flattered

Eh, I can go a few more orbits in life, before taxes blind me out - PoorUser 

Bejamin1   Canada. Nov 24 2007 20:06. Posts 7042

I dislike this style completely. Taking 2-3 buy-in shots is just donating to the regulars. They key to learning to beat a stake is experience, that means many thousands of hands. Especially for making the jump in higher stakes. Playing 1-5k hands and then being forced to move down due to a session where you hit a cold deck or you quite frankly were out-classed won't teach anyone much. Not only that but you'll be sitting there watching your roll like a hawk so your sure to move down as soon as you lose that 2 buy-in pot.

Not that this style doesn't work for some people.

Sorry dude he Jason Bourned me. -Johnny Drama 

 



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