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bigbb33 Canada. Dec 17 2007 08:22. Posts 3679 | | |
Played one of the worst hands I've ever played just now. I was one tabling too, so now excuses. Just never play with the laptop touchpad, I guess.
Anyway, the hand:
I am playing loose, 30/25 or something. I open UTG with ATo. CO, who is playing 17/14, 3bets me. Folds to me.
Here's what I know.
1. CO is 17/14, that's tight
2. I've played 25-30 hands so far and he's never 3 bet anyone.
3. V few people 3bet light at 50nl. In fact, almost nobody does.
4. He is likely smart enough to know my UTG range is rather tight.
Using all this information, I come to the brilliant conclusion that I should 4bet him, try to steal the pot. Absolutely brilliant deduction.
Anyway, I 4bet his $6 3bet to $16. He thinks for 10-12 seconds, then calls. This should be a warning sign for me, but I'm brilliant, so who gives a fuck.
Flop is 774. Driest possible flop for 4bet hands, at a stake where nobody 4bets. I now decide to cbet $20 into the $32 pot. Why? His range for calling my 3bet is likely QQ+, maybe JJ, and probably AK. There are 16 ways to have AK, 6 to have pocket pairs. If he has QQ+, then he has 18:16 QQ+:AK. If he has JJ+, then it's 24:16, or 4:3.
My cbet has to work about 1/3 of the time to break even. Actually, thinking over the math, the cbet wasn't horrible, as I really think he folds AK there.
Either way I cbet, he shoved for $16 more into what would be a $100 pot if I called, and I folded.
Wow. That's epic bad. Worst preflop play, ever.
If someone wants to comment on the cbet, I'd like it. I actually thought it was horrible right after the hand when I realized my 4bet was horrible, but now that I think about it and hand combinations it actually seems profitable. Is my math wrong? Are you really as likely to get dealt AKs/AKo as you are QQ+?
Looking at some site's, it actually seems if he has JJ+ and AKs/AKo in his range, the AK will be 1/3 of his hand range. Therefore if he folds 100% of the time vs my cbet with AK, it's actually about =ev to do so. Kind of surprising, actually.
Anyway I fucked this hand up preflop massively, wow.
Flame me harshly in the comments to cleanse my soul.
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after he calls your 4-bet you just gotta shut down.
he isnt gonna fold anything on that board, probably not even AK.
this looks like AA/KK all day long, tight people at nl 50 dont call your 4-bet lightly. |
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Fraser Canada. Dec 17 2007 13:14. Posts 4605 | | |
pretty sure its close to a call when he pushes over ur flop bet too lol.
pretty sick hand... u can get away with betting half pot on the flop i think. hate the 4bet obviously, if very few people 3bet then just think of them as landmines to be avoided. |
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