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Rhaegar    Bulgaria. Dec 19 2007 00:51. Posts 2586
Lol, it's not that easy to adjust to the 50c-1$ games. I find that there is a larger variety of players and you have to be careful to separate the good ones and not pay them off. I find that most people reraise really tight, so getting it in with JJ and even QQ on dry flops will not be profitable against them and 4betting AK will be a complete disaster. In fact I think its often best to just fold AKo to a reraise oop to a good player.
Another thing is - the game varies in difficulty a lot with different sites and different times. Playing at night at i4 I was up 6 stacks in 500 hands not really paying attention at all. But playing at other sites or during the day at the same site was very different. Some of the regulars in those games will definitely be winning players at 2-4 and 3-6.
And you have to put a lot of notes, as unlike play on higher limits, where people generally play similar, on the midstakes different players think very differently about the game. I mean, their thinking is mostly wrong, but its not that predictable. Like some player will play tight and suddenly reraise you from the blinds with 25o. Things like that.
My biggest mistakes were mostly getting it in weaker overpairs (JJ,QQ) and a curious river call here and there.

Ah, and some of the players play their hands so obvious, like theyre screaming at you they have a monster. I think you should be able to fold some pretty good hands against them. Saying "Yeah, it looks like he has it, but I cant fold it - this is 100NL" is completely wrong. Exactly because its 100NL you should find some more folds. Better players won't let you get away so easily.

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TianYuan    Korea (South). Dec 19 2007 00:56. Posts 6817

Are you playing the NL100 on prima or some other site? I'm curious if you've played with IamDeucE, I personally found him to be the most solid player at .5/1 when I played there, and I was surprised he never moved up.

And I agree completely with what you said about AK at .5/1 vs AK at even 1/2. I know 1/2 isn't highstakes or anything, but it's funny how huge the difference is in just that one regard.

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Narious   Canada. Dec 19 2007 01:01. Posts 4800

Wow, Good blog entry. I hope you keep them up becouse as a struggling 200NL regular I think I should be able to learn a lot from this sort of post.


cariadon   Estonia. Dec 19 2007 01:22. Posts 4019

hey Rhaegar hope to play with you on 400nl to 600nl just for the experience =)
saw you at 100nl yesterday and thought it was someone on your account or whatever...
gl =)


phexac   United States. Dec 19 2007 02:13. Posts 2563

There is a reason so many winning regulars at low-mid stakes are total nits--that style is immensely profitable at those limits.

Nitting it up since 2006 

moneypoker   Poland. Dec 19 2007 02:26. Posts 693

what nickname do You have on i4? ( this is i4poker right?) I play nl100 and nl200 there and I would like to know wich tables should I avoid

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Zografa   Bulgaria. Dec 19 2007 02:41. Posts 962


  On December 18 2007 23:56 TianYuan wrote:
Are you playing the NL100 on prima or some other site? I'm curious if you've played with IamDeucE, I personally found him to be the most solid player at .5/1 when I played there, and I was surprised he never moved up.

And I agree completely with what you said about AK at .5/1 vs AK at even 1/2. I know 1/2 isn't highstakes or anything, but it's funny how huge the difference is in just that one regard.


IamDeuce are u kidding me?

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The72o   Zimbabwe. Dec 19 2007 03:07. Posts 6112


  On December 19 2007 01:41 Zografa wrote:
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IamDeuce are u kidding me?


yeah WTF, he totally suck ass

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Silver_nz   New Zealand. Dec 19 2007 03:11. Posts 5647

v v nice blog entry.. I'm had similar thoughts floating around in my mind but I never trusted myself on them... good read, really gets me thinking.


Minion   Brasil. Dec 19 2007 03:58. Posts 2112

please dont play on ps
just a bunch of regulars like the ones u described =)


TianYuan    Korea (South). Dec 19 2007 03:59. Posts 6817


  On December 19 2007 02:07 The72o wrote:
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yeah WTF, he totally suck ass


.. That's weird, he was by far biggest winner when I datamined nl100 and played. It was like 4 months ago. Oh well, not like I had a significant sample, but I thought he was the best regular at NL100.

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TianYuan    Korea (South). Dec 19 2007 04:03. Posts 6817

5,804 hands
1,094.80$ won
9.43 BB/100

Stats look super solid (I dunno, maybe I'm being silly not posting them but it feels 'wrong' )... Maybe there's more than 1 people playing on his account? Because while he wasn't like destroying people left and right or anything like that, I find it impossible for anyone to think he sucks.

I mean seriously, name one NL100 reg who's better than him? I don't know if Fayth counts but he was playing NL100 at the same time as I did on prima.

(note I haven't played NL100 since august, maybe player pool has changed a lot or something).

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lucifer   Sweden. Dec 19 2007 04:13. Posts 5955

that's why poker is so wonderful.

totally different in every situation (even tho its totally not)

On February 19 2009 22:21 Confedrate wrote: i dont get itLast edit: 19/12/2007 04:14

P1mpdaddy   Austria. Dec 19 2007 04:30. Posts 1370

great blog entry.

thats why I beg to differ when the mid/high stakes player say "easy shove, you got JJ/QQ/KK just get it in...its NLXXX" There are alot of retards at NL50/NL100 but mostly tight/passiv ppl.

Funny thing is I seem to always win on this stakes if I avoid to play big pots with AA/KK/QQ.

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ToT)MidiaN(    United Kingdom. Dec 19 2007 05:07. Posts 5070

I know exactly what you mean. I played some at 50NL and 100NL 6max recently on stars, there are some good players there who will win at higher stakes for sure, and some complete and utter retards. A total mixed bag. Although the "good" players at 100NL tend to be much less aggressive than high stakes players and you often find yourself having to fold mediocre hands to them that you would get in vs the majority of high stakes regulars, there are opponents like that at high stakes too, like Wyern on Prima for instance, getting it in light vs him is often unprofitable. Also what you say about table selection is very true, I mean at high stakes you don't always have the luxury to pick weak tables. But at 100NL table selection is so important, simply because it's really easy to find good tables, fish are very very abundant, there are so many tables running to choose from and as long as you avoid the ones full of regs and sit in good table position with the fish 100NL is really really easy, you just have to pay attention to who the regs are and who the fish are. I think in that sense FTP/Prima and other sites that you can datamine are the most profitable sites for 50NL-200NL because you can datamine and table select well. Above those limits there are less fish so it's all about finding sites that have the fewest good regs or the most fish at them I guess, until then the games have such a variety of players that datamining is really really useful, more so than at high stakes, where as you say, most of the players are quite similar.

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bigbb33   Canada. Dec 20 2007 07:18. Posts 3679

Thank you - it seems like everyone who plays higher thinks that 50nl and 100nl are huge crapfests where people go broke with top pair no kicker for a buyin because they can't fold, and all you need is an overpair to double up easy. The reality is that there is a huge mix, from terrible to your avg regular who plays 20/15, 3bets larger than pot, knows what flop textures are good for his hand, etc.

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