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I was sinking like a can of leaky diet coke today as usual when I decided to tilt a bit and try out new stuff. Especially value betting, something I heard of, but havent really dared to try to much before cause I'm too afraid of the final hand, slowplayers, insane bad luck or something. Value betting takes care of the slowplayers because they usually dont just call you, but raise you on the flop, and you have saved all the money you would have lost if you were unlucky enough to hit a lesser good hand on turn or river. And you can take hom a lot of pots at river, you only lose the amount you value bet at river when they reraise big. Then you'll have to be able to fold, or you are a fish you will swallow the bait, hook and sinker at the same time.
I started to understand the bet / fold to reraise when I was minus 15 and I won 40 dollars from then on, on the next 1000 hands.
It doesnt seem like 0.01/0.02 really gives points in the hand race, I fell to 11. place even though I played thousands of hands, so if they count I really have no chance against these nerds. The good side is I can stick to 10NL for a while if this winning run continues, and it's not just some luck after changing style as usual.
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KeyleK_uk United Kingdom. Jan 11 2008 03:26. Posts 1687 | | |
hmmm when you describe 'value betting' it really seems to me like you're talking about 'continuation betting' on the flop.
ie when you raise up just betting almost no matter what comes vs 1-2 opponents so you can just take it down and remove any difficult decisions later on in the hand is what you seemed to be saying if so yea it's something thats gotta be in your game (has to).
Anyway good luck keep playing low and grinding  |
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SPEWTARD Peru. Jan 11 2008 05:51. Posts 4306 | | | |
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SPEWTARD Peru. Jan 11 2008 05:52. Posts 4306 | | |
| | On January 11 2008 02:26 KeyleK_uk wrote:
hmmm when you describe 'value betting' it really seems to me like you're talking about 'continuation betting' on the flop.
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value bet is when u have a made hand and u try to obtain the most posible value for it |
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when people say "a made hand" they usually think top pair + top kicker or better. What im trying to teach is how important it is to value bet any top pair or second pair top kicker vs passive players that will call with worse, and also beeing able to fold to a re-raise since the players at these limits are not that aggressive, they are more calling stations for the most part, so its not going to backfire, people are not suddenly going to do crazy bluffs on the river against him, but it takes time and experience to get a feel for when a value bet is good. |
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Ok, I don't know the exact word for it, but the act of betting when I have something although I'm not sure it's the best hand among those in the pot, and then fold to insane reraises. I usually have better pairs and better kickers than the ones who calls this bet.
Continuation betting, I've though of as sort of stubbornly betting again at any flop even though I'm not going to continue with the hand. I've almost stopped doing it.
This other kind of betting I feel gives me a whole new weapon and I feel two things, I learn from doing it, and I feel like I'm in control of the hand. It also pays off for now, but it could of course be standard deviation.. |
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