Games are tough

definitely agree and i feel same

tho my alternative scenarios was learning heads up.... im not sure its good tho

coming from someone that seems to have a lot of experience at 2/4 through 5/10 this doesn't make me feel good......

On February 14 2008 21:52 TimDawg wrote: coming from someone that seems to have a lot of experience at 2/4 through 5/10 this doesn't make me feel good......

To be fair, some of this could be clouded by the fact that I've been improving as a player at a slower rate than I had been previously.

Also, if you are bright / have all the requisite emotional and mental skills / still find yourself actively enjoying and learning the game, you shouldn't feel too bad. The self-questioning I'm doing in relation to poker has as much [or more] to do with my enjoyment of the game than the fact that the overall poker community continues to improve.

Dude, thats how i feel when i play higher limits and i have a marginal winrate. thats why I have decided to grind 200nl 10 tabling for the next couple months, i make like $250 an hour and i think its fucked up if i dont take advantage of it when i see my friends making like $15 an hour and being super stoked on that.

I mean fuck i make $250 an hour for like the last 3 months or more straight. IDK man just accept the fact that poker is hard and not everyone is a prodigy, and that you can make a shitload more than others your age doing it and be happy with the opportunities have offered you.

Basically, you have to alter your perspective and goals of poker from trying to be as best strategic player as possible to a player that wants to make as much money as possible. But, that may not be why you play poker in the first place i guess.

you have good thoughts... I'll be interested to hear what options you come up with.

I agree with your assumption that 3/6 will get more and more populated with better players.

In regards to losing intrest I feel this is something that all players need to cope with. I have similar understandings , me for instance I get very modivated when I lose, not only do i really want to get my money back, but i also want to build some faith back in my game, the problem is when I win I just dont want to play anymore, the game do not intresting to me when I can beat my opponents.
This is something that I really try to cope with and try to work on a daily level.

1 Last comment about the games getting tough this is true with any game of skill, eventually the competiton will rise if the game remains popular. What I am curious about is how the very sick raw talent players study/improve and what kind of work ethic they practice to achieving only the highest standards in a competitive sense. I wish someone from a strong brood war background can comment on this.

try midstakes games on other sites maybe ? there is a good amount of sportbetting sites who have semidecent poker softwares and softer 2/4 games

On February 15 2008 01:41 casinocasino wrote: I agree with your assumption that 3/6 will get more and more populated with better players. In regards to losing intrest I feel this is something that all players need to cope with. I have similar understandings , me for instance I get very modivated when I lose, not only do i really want to get my money back, but i also want to build some faith back in my game, the problem is when I win I just dont want to play anymore, the game do not intresting to me when I can beat my opponents. This is something that I really try to cope with and try to work on a daily level. 1 Last comment about the games getting tough this is true with any game of skill, eventually the competiton will rise if the game remains popular. What I am curious about is how the very sick raw talent players study/improve and what kind of work ethic they practice to achieving only the highest standards in a competitive sense. I wish someone from a strong brood war background can comment on this.

I played BW at the highest level for 2-3 years back in 1999-2001, living in South Korea as a pro-gamer for awhile [from the time when the top Koreans and non-Koreans were on a relatively equal playing field, to the point where only a small handful of foreigners would ever again be able to compete on the same level as the Korean players.] I'm not sure if one needs a particularly illustrious BW gaming background to answer your question, though. Players with more innate ability at a given game will always have an edge, all else being equal. The all else = continued passion for the game, willingness to play / study / improve, access to other talented players to spar with.

If you're talking about 'how to keep fighting even when you're losing interest in a game'...I guess that's a skill of some sort, but to be honest, it's pretty hard to continue succeeding at a game if you've lost your drive to improve. That's as true of BW as it is for poker.

Basically, you have to alter your perspective and goals of poker from trying to be as best strategic player as possible to a player that wants to make as much money as possible.

Well, there tends to be a pretty strong correlation between being strategically sound and one's hourly rate.

But, that may not be why you play poker in the first place i guess.

$$$ makes up 90% of the reason why I still play poker. The other 10% is made up of whatever passion still remains for the game [and this percentage drops weekly.] You're spot on about the importance of capitalizing on the ability to make this kind of money, though. It's a pretty fortunate position to be in, and it'd be nice to keep raking in money for as long as one is able to.

On February 15 2008 02:01 MiPwnYa wrote: try midstakes games on other sites maybe ? there is a good amount of sportbetting sites who have semidecent poker softwares and softer 2/4 games

This is definitely one of the options I'm considering. To be honest, it makes sense to have accounts at multiple sites anyway so one can game select more effectively.

"If you're talking about 'how to keep fighting even when you're losing interest in a game'...I guess that's a skill of some sort, but to be honest, it's pretty hard to continue succeeding at a game if you've lost your drive to improve. That's as true of BW as it is for poker."

this is mainly what I am talking about, I am very intrested in the kind of work ethic / practice the best players constantly put to remain at the top, maybe not even looking for only a starcraft point of view, perhaps chess and the dedication it takes to improve, all the aspects of working and makign your skill flawless.

ya i think you should try another site for your regular routine, you will find softer places to play at

and if your bored of the game play less daily or wait a few days until u 'feel' like playing it...

i don't think that if your playing without liking to play is good at all..

gl 2 u

play on rednines

VERY VERY do that