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dafcnz   Canada. Mar 14 2008 06:03. Posts 303
Hey guys, I don't really know where to turn to so I thought I'd post here in my blog and see if any of you guys have advice or ideas for me. I have been playing poker for quite some time now (although only recently with real money) and I don't seem to be able to get out of the micro grinding. Actually, I've been losing money (about 150$ in 2 weeks) on a constant basis so far playing at .02/.04 and .05/.10 NL FR. I have read many articles on this site and others, looked at pros' videos and such. I think I am playing by the book, only raising AA-KK-AK preflop, calling with pockets and AQ/AJ suited if I have position and no one raised or very few players called the BB, just what seems to be very tight play to me (maybe I'm wrong too). But even with playing this tight, I always seem to lose big hands to incredibly donkish players. Best example is about 30 minutes ago, I get dealt AKc and 4bet from middle position, guy on the button calls me so I guess he has either pockets or high cards (he actually has 9-10 offsuit). Flop comes out with 2 more clubs, I have a flush draw (hand was Jc-4d-3c), he checks, I raise as a continuation bet, he goes all-in ... I have about 2x his stack so I call, and when I see the cards I'm happy I called, seeing how he had nothing. Turn and River come, no clubs but the Q and an 8 comes out and he gets a straight on me. Lose 5$ ... This is basically what happens on all of my hands and I am thinking it's not just luck, everybody thinks they are the unluckiest poker players so I'm sure theres something I am doing wrong but I can't seem to point it out. I never hit on the flop, I can't seem to make a flush even if my life depends on it and everytime I seem to run into some random turn/river hits. I am not a beast at reading my opponents but the more I play, the more I feel like I can't read them at all ... Should I change stakes? Is it because there are simply too many lucky-a** donks on the micros??? I play solid against the other grinders and multi tablers but get raped constantly by fish and donks...

Ideas? Advice? Free money? (j/k, unless you wanna stake me 1k so I can play higher blinds haha)

**Edit : Forgot to mention, I basically never tilted through this, I kept telling myself if I keep playing consistent and tight in the end I can only end up winning more than I lose but I'm on the verge of losing all of my BR, I'm actually not going to touch the tables until I find out what's wrong with my play.

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dafcnz   Canada. Mar 14 2008 06:05. Posts 303

Oh and btw, you guys can forget last post prior to this blog, I don't need to transfer any money from CD Poker, I'm busto on there now


morph1   Sierra Leone. Mar 14 2008 06:24. Posts 2352


  I have read many articles on this site and others, looked at pros' videos and such. I think I am playing by the book, only raising AA-KK-AK preflop, calling with pockets and AQ/AJ suited if I have position and no one raised or very few players called the BB, just what seems to be very tight play to me (maybe I'm wrong too)


ok raising only AA-KK-AK preflop in FR is bad.. so you will def. want to change that , also limping pp AQ/AJ is also bad.. you don't want to be callerstation
so you are playing bad and you should change you game


  . Best example is about 30 minutes ago, I get dealt AKc and 4bet from middle position, guy on the button calls me so I guess he has either pockets or high cards (he actually has 9-10 offsuit). Flop comes out with 2 more clubs, I have a flush draw (hand was Jc-4d-3c), he checks, I raise as a continuation bet, he goes all-in ... I have about 2x his stack so I call, and when I see the cards I'm happy I called, seeing how he had nothing. Turn and River come, no clubs but the Q and an 8 comes out and he gets a straight on me. Lose 5$ ... This is basically what happens on all of my hands and I am thinking it's not just luck, everybody thinks they are the unluckiest poker players so I'm sure theres something I am doing wrong but I can't seem to point it out. I never hit on the flop, I can't seem to make a flush even if my life depends on it and everytime I seem to run into some random turn/river hits. I am not a beast at reading my opponents but the more I play, the more I feel like I can't read them at all ... Should I change stakes? Is it because there are simply too many lucky-a** donks on the micros??? I play solid against the other grinders and multi tablers but get raped constantly by fish and donks...


raise "wat" ? ;p
you dont want to be result oriented, if you play good and got suckout all the time on you... then shit happens, but think in a long run, you are going to make money from idiots like that!

also work on your BR managment, at least use 20bi rule
you want to learn from books.. so read alot and start posting hands on forum and read feedbacks that you got on them

Always Look On The Bright Side of Life 

dafcnz   Canada. Mar 14 2008 06:51. Posts 303


  On March 14 2008 05:24 morph1 wrote:
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ok raising only AA-KK-AK preflop in FR is bad.. so you will def. want to change that , also limping pp AQ/AJ is also bad.. you don't want to be callerstation
so you are playing bad and you should change you game


  . Best example is about 30 minutes ago, I get dealt AKc and 4bet from middle position, guy on the button calls me so I guess he has either pockets or high cards (he actually has 9-10 offsuit). Flop comes out with 2 more clubs, I have a flush draw (hand was Jc-4d-3c), he checks, I raise as a continuation bet, he goes all-in ... I have about 2x his stack so I call, and when I see the cards I'm happy I called, seeing how he had nothing. Turn and River come, no clubs but the Q and an 8 comes out and he gets a straight on me. Lose 5$ ... This is basically what happens on all of my hands and I am thinking it's not just luck, everybody thinks they are the unluckiest poker players so I'm sure theres something I am doing wrong but I can't seem to point it out. I never hit on the flop, I can't seem to make a flush even if my life depends on it and everytime I seem to run into some random turn/river hits. I am not a beast at reading my opponents but the more I play, the more I feel like I can't read them at all ... Should I change stakes? Is it because there are simply too many lucky-a** donks on the micros??? I play solid against the other grinders and multi tablers but get raped constantly by fish and donks...


raise "wat" ? ;p
you dont want to be result oriented, if you play good and got suckout all the time on you... then shit happens, but think in a long run, you are going to make money from idiots like that!

also work on your BR managment, at least use 20bi rule
you want to learn from books.. so read alot and start posting hands on forum and read feedbacks that you got on them


To answer the raise wat: I raised pot size, bad/good move?

Also, you said only raising AA-KK-AK preflop is bad but I'm wondering, what else should I raise on, or should I not raise these? Everything I read lead me to play aggressive with these hands rather than trying to trick opponents by playing weak (they get cheap flops and risk running into sets, etc)

Also, about your "limping pp AJ/AQ is bad" comment, what do you recommend? Should I raise preflop with these? If I'm in position I will usually raise if I don't see anyone playing too strong or call if someone has already raised (decent raises, wouldnt call more than 4-5bet with it)


morph1   Sierra Leone. Mar 14 2008 07:04. Posts 2352

rofl.. you defenetly want to raise AA-KK-AK preflop and you want to play big hands for big pots
raising preflop is position related so you should try looking for some preflop ranges regarding to position
just search on forum.. i am 100% sure you will find something on forum

Always Look On The Bright Side of Life 

dafcnz   Canada. Mar 14 2008 09:45. Posts 303

Thanks alot for the help Any more comments are appreciated. So far poker has been pretty hard on my ego, I'm a mensa member so I'm used to learn these kinda things quite fast so it has been a bit frustrating to be on the losing side, at least I'm not full of myself so I can laugh about the fact I get mad

Also I finally got to post a couple hands, I'll post more later, the ones in there so far are more of a test :D


FoolsPlay   Canada. Mar 14 2008 11:07. Posts 1335

did they teach you to use paragraphs in mensa?

if you add tons of macro options and units and keep the old obligations like sending scvs to mine, pros will just focus less on micro which sucks imo -Floofy 

SugoGosu   Korea (South). Mar 14 2008 13:12. Posts 1793

I'm guessing you play FR. LP is mostly a 6max site, so I would suggest moving there to learn the most from 6 max. Most people play pairs for set value on FR I believe, even though I have actually never played FR.

on 6 max, at lets say... NL5 I raise PF with any combination of AKQJ (but only if KJ and QJ are suited, or if I'm late poisiton, I'll add the offsuits as well) then any suited connectors 78+, and pocktpairs 88+ then pocketpairs 22-77 I call and play for set value.

Say this outloud! Why was six afraid of seven?......Because Seven Eight Nine 

Wenbo   France. Mar 14 2008 16:17. Posts 14

hey, you just need to read the articles over there, it really helps: http://www.liquidpoker.net/pokerarticles/


dafcnz   Canada. Mar 14 2008 17:57. Posts 303


  On March 14 2008 10:07 FoolsPlay wrote:
did they teach you to use paragraphs in mensa?



No, I'm sorry my english isn't perfect but considering it's my third language, I would recommend you stop trying to be a little flaming troll and post constructive answers. fgt.


 



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