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k2o4   United States. Apr 15 2008 22:34. Posts 4803

WTF HUGE FISH!


I think the biggest thing I've changed in my play style is that when I'm playing 4 tables I focus on ranging my opps and trying really hard to figure out their hand, and then adjusting everything I do according to what their likely hand is and what type of player they are. That leads me to taking some very weird lines sometimes, especially vs the fish. Vs standard players I tend to do standard things, though I try to figure what they have and if they have a hand and I have one, I just go for value town, where if I have a hand and I think they have dick, I try weird shit to induce calls/bluffs. But with the fish I do shit that I normally would never do... case in point is the following hand:

Philly was playing @ 80/0/0.7 over like 50 hands. I was trying hard to watch as many of his hands as possible and figured out that he'd call a flop cbet with any pair or draw and was an overall station. He would donk halfpot into the PFR in 3bet pots with mediocre hands like middle pair and call a raise. Knowing all of that I ended up doing a very weird line in the following hand.

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Preflop: I was glad to call knowing that philly would almost certainly overcall, plus the raiser was deep and a nit so it made him easier to play against postflop. It turned into a nice family pot anyway.

Flop: I considered donking cause I figured that there was a chance of getting philly to call and maybe a raise from the PFR, but I decided to check cause I figured if it checked around I could call the cbet and philly would probably overcall. But when philly donk'd I automatically figured him to be on some sorta mid PP or a flush draw. So I decided to min check raise cause I knew he'd call that raise with any crap hand.

Turn: The turn I thought there was a good chance he had the flush so I figured I'd make a small bet to get value from PP's (which I was sure he'd call with) and get an all-in raise from his flush. It also set up my river move...

River: I basically put him in but don't fully shove knowing that a flush is coming with me for sure and figuring that the weird line will get him suspicious enough to call with lots of mediocre hands, plus he's a station so fuck it right?


I never min check-raise but this just seemed like the perfect time to do it. And the tiny turn bet was weird as hell but I figured it was perfect for him. Hell, maybe I am overthinking this and he woulda stacked off if I shoved the flop and I just risked missing value, but I feel like the moves like this that I'm doing are definitely increasing my winrate.

My biggest problem right now is how to handle aggro players who aren't maniacs. Guys who play like 35/30 or 45/35 and so on and have an idea of how to play postflop. I can't seem to 3bet them light cause they always call the 3bet, and often get into 4bet wars. So what I tend to do is just tighten up a lot vs em. I am ok vs utter maniacal moronic super donks who play like 70/50 and so on - I just uber nit it up and only play hands I'm willing to get all-in preflop with and just hit them with uber aggression everytime I'm in a hand. But it's the guys who are above regular LAG and below super maniac that fuck me up.

Anyway, that's all for now. The overall update is that I finally won a few buyins after 3 days of breaking even, so that's nice. 3 buyins away from my $2,500 goal before taking shots @ NL100. Let's hope I make those 3 buyins in the next few days and then hit a super heater when I take my NL100 shot. I've said that a million times now and am hoping that if I keep wishing for it then it will happen!



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sniderstyle   United States. Apr 15 2008 22:48. Posts 2046

right on brotha'

we should sweat each other sometime
im available all week

Genginho: lose today 100 dollar only because of fishs they called and had luck on river 

 



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