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nlloser60   . May 11 2008 04:43. Posts 304

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Please, help me guys to figure it out:
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1. http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/442386 - vpip: 13, pfr: 5
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2. http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/442387
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3. http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/442388
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4. http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/442391
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5. http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/442392
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6. http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/442393
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7. http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/442394
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8. http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/442395
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9. http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/442396
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10. http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/442397



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ck20   . May 11 2008 04:51. Posts 1130

I made some comments


morph1   Sierra Leone. May 11 2008 05:45. Posts 2352

10. cooler
9. why the fuck you reraise JJ out of position in FR esp. on this stakes? given how you played.. you should cbet on that flop
8. probably cooler.. that guy is short
7. i dont like it.. that 2 guys are short someone is probably going to push you there
6. fold turn .. he shove you strenght by calling on flop and then betting on turn
5.WTF raise preflop dude.. + it's 6handed so you cant fold.. cooller
4. cooler.. it was reraised pot.. you are only afraind of AA.. still i would reraise 4x his raise preflop
3. obv cooler .. yea you should bet 3/4 of the pot
2. idk probably cooler
1. you raised Q8o out of position (from BB) and you had alot of limpers before you.. that's bad

generaly there are few coolers .. but still you made some mistakes even in them
idk dude... you probably need some changes in your game
maybe move down until you feel you are running better + diffrence between nl10 and nl25 is very small

Always Look On The Bright Side of Life 

Royal_Rumble   Germany. May 11 2008 06:27. Posts 1760

some coolers, but some bad play definitely as well.

dont post in caps.

money won is twice as sweet as money earned.  

Exhilarate   United States. May 11 2008 14:18. Posts 5453

I suggest to stop 3betting AJo at these stakes unless they are complete fish and you have position, and don't play trash hands like Q8o OOP, and just live with the KK vs AA coolers.
Be patient, don't spew/tilt, and you'll be fine.
You also shouldn't post BB oop. I guess it's okay if you want people to have a donk image of you, but yeah...

 Last edit: 11/05/2008 14:19

KeyleK_uk   United Kingdom. May 11 2008 15:09. Posts 1687

u played ok-bad and ran bad-ish

poker is soooo much easier when you flop sets 

KeyleK_uk   United Kingdom. May 11 2008 15:09. Posts 1687

these are all mistakes everyone made tho

poker is soooo much easier when you flop sets 

ToT)MidiaN(    United Kingdom. May 11 2008 17:47. Posts 5070

1) Preflop is terrible. You have Q8o in the big blind against probable calling stations who are unlikely to fold anything. You're going to miss the flop a ton of the time and be forced to continuation bet with a hand that is gonna have few outs a ton of the time and may not even be the best hand when you even hit. Just check in the big blind and see a flop for free. "Stealing" the dead money here is a waste of money, it's going to work too infrequently, when called you're gonna be out of position in a bloated pot with a shit holding that isn't gonna hit anything very often.

2) Do not post your big blind out of position. Sure you may not feel like 25c is much of a big deal but in relation to the size of the pot it is and you're seeing random cards for 25c when you would normally be seeing them for free. Wait for the big blind to come around before entering the pot. Post flop I didn't even really look at, but postflop cost you not only the 25c post but also half your stack because you ended up seeing the flop with a hand you normally wouldn't have played and got fucked up the shitter.

3) Again you posted out of position and ended up seeing a flop with a shit hand. You did flop gin though and you're not getting away from a king high flush here, but preflop is a much bigger mistake than you clearly see. Twice now you got stacked in situations where you had a trashy hand preflop and effectively limped out of turn with crapola which is obviously not profitable.

4) Nh. Cooler

5) Raise preflop. AJ vs 2 limpers is likely the best hand and you're in position so you wanna build a bigger pot for when you hit a top pair hand. As played flop and turn seem good but when the flush hits on the river and he leads raising is probably not gonna get paid off by too much worse and you should probably just flat looking to get a cheap showdown and hope he improve to 2 pair or just randomly donked out with some worse hand as a blocker (that's not gonna call a raise anyway)

6) Generally you're not getting called by too much worse c-betting the flop so you could go into c/c mode and call 3 streets down if he is bluffy. If not you should probably just bet the flop and be done if he bets afterwards as it's probably clear he has you beat if he bets the turn after you cbet -> checked and he is sane.

7) Preflop is not horrible if he is calling with worse (as is clearly the case as he showed up w/ A3s here). However putting any money into the pot post flop is pretty terrible with a cold caller who had virtually no money invested beforehand and the original raiser calling too. Simple c/f on the flop

8) Leading could be decent if he shoves over the top with crap, but otherwise you mayaswell c/r AI here as he will be calling with worse considering how much is in the pot and may be continuation betting/folding the dead money with complete air considering he's the preflop raiser. Neither is really a massive mistake though unless he's raising a tiny percentage of hands preflop, in which case you can just fold your hand preflop.

9) I'd probably continuation bet just to define my opponents hand range, and there is value to be had as he can call with worse. It's a hard spot out of position as it is, and c/cing just makess it worse, particularly when the turn is a Q or A

10) Nh. Cooler, especially vs a shortstack

One day good. One day bad. And some days, even hope 

nlloser60   . May 12 2008 00:16. Posts 304


  On May 11 2008 16:47 ToT)MidiaN( wrote:
2) Do not post your big blind out of position. Sure you may not feel like 25c is much of a big deal but in relation to the size of the pot it is and you're seeing random cards for 25c when you would normally be seeing them for free. Wait for the big blind to come around before entering the pot. Post flop I didn't even really look at, but postflop cost you not only the 25c post but also half your stack because you ended up seeing the flop with a hand you normally wouldn't have played and got fucked up the shitter.

3) Again you posted out of position and ended up seeing a flop with a shit hand. You did flop gin though and you're not getting away from a king high flush here, but preflop is a much bigger mistake than you clearly see. Twice now you got stacked in situations where you had a trashy hand preflop and effectively limped out of turn with crapola which is obviously not profitable.


Thx, for advice I didn't think that way



 
5) Raise preflop. AJ vs 2 limpers is likely the best hand and you're in position so you wanna build a bigger pot for when you hit a top pair hand. As played flop and turn seem good but when the flush hits on the river and he leads raising is probably not gonna get paid off by too much worse and you should probably just flat looking to get a cheap showdown and hope he improve to 2 pair or just randomly donked out with some worse hand as a blocker (that's not gonna call a raise anyway)


Normally I would've raised, but sometimes it's hard because of 24 tables.

In addition I want to say, that sometimes I raise preflop random hands like Q8o, just to loose a bit my image which is now: VPIP: 14, PFR: 5
I really appreciate your comments ToT)MidiaN(, thx.


NerO   United States. May 12 2008 01:24. Posts 2402

move to 6max and play 4 turbo tables at once its 100times easier and funner


ToT)MidiaN(    United Kingdom. May 12 2008 02:12. Posts 5070


  On May 11 2008 23:16 nlloser60 wrote:
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Thx, for advice I didn't think that way



 
5) Raise preflop. AJ vs 2 limpers is likely the best hand and you're in position so you wanna build a bigger pot for when you hit a top pair hand. As played flop and turn seem good but when the flush hits on the river and he leads raising is probably not gonna get paid off by too much worse and you should probably just flat looking to get a cheap showdown and hope he improve to 2 pair or just randomly donked out with some worse hand as a blocker (that's not gonna call a raise anyway)


Normally I would've raised, but sometimes it's hard because of 24 tables.

In addition I want to say, that sometimes I raise preflop random hands like Q8o, just to loose a bit my image which is now: VPIP: 14, PFR: 5
I really appreciate your comments ToT)MidiaN(, thx.


If you want to loosen your image do it by raising a bunch of suited gappers/connectors in position, not some complete trash out of position. Unless it goes to showdown they're not gonna know what you raised anyway and one time is not going to really do anything for your image. You need to be constantly raising for you to get a looser image, not making one spewy raise out of position that may not even go to showdown. Also consider the fact that a lot of these players aren't paying much attention and even if it does go to showdown they may not think anything of it and you'll realise that image is not that important at all at these limits.

One day good. One day bad. And some days, even hope 

morph1   Sierra Leone. May 12 2008 03:22. Posts 2352

lol dont 24 table if you have leaks.. cut it down to 6 or maybe below

Always Look On The Bright Side of Life 

 



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