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k2o4   United States. May 21 2008 13:06. Posts 4803

Imagine a Mexican announcer screaming "GGGOOOAALLL!"


Last night I realized that I set myself some unrealistic goals in the past and have constantly felt like shit ever since cause I am so far from achieving them. Time to set some new ones.

See, I look up to people like Jamie (MidiaN), Corwin (Myth), vvvq and people like them who have gone from BW to amazing poker careers. I try my hardest to learn from them and I am inspired by what they have achieved. I see how Jamie was able to quickly move up level after level and become a solid 5/10 reg in less than a year and think "if he can do it I can too." That lead me to set the goal of playing 5/10 by the end of 2008 after starting full time poker in January. I thought it would be very easy to achieve, but here I am hitting a wall @ NL100 and constantly dropping down to NL50 or NL25. Why?

It became obvious to me last night that the guys I look up to have something I don't - a natural talent for poker. It's probably similar to the natural skill that allowed them to become top BW players. I can't lay specifics to what is different, but it's clear that they have a natural skill that I don't. I think I have some natural poker skill, and it's larger than a good portion of the people playing poker out there, but it's small compared to what Jamie, Corwin, vvvq and so on have. My natural skill probably gives me an edge up to NL200 at the most.

This means I have to make up for it somewhere else. I believe that I can achieve the same outcome as those guys did and get up to being a 5/10 reg. But my path won't be the same as theirs. It's going to take a lot longer, and I'll have to do a lot more work to be as good as they are. But this is where my assets come into play. All my life I've always faced the same situation - I am naturally better at activities (sports, BW, so on) than the average joe who shows up to play, but I hit a wall where my natural skill stops while others keep going. I've dealt with it by accepting where my natural skill can get me and working hard to compensate for it. I'm persistent, determined, hard working and driven, and that allows me to do the extra work necessary to continue to improve beyond what my natural skill allows.

I think part of what got me to realize why I've been hitting this wall in poker was re-watching the movie Gattaca. If you haven't seen it the basic idea is that in the future pregnancy is controlled and the babies are genetically customized to the parents desires. They can control how tall/short the baby will be, hair color, eliminate potential medical problems, increase their IQ and physical ability, and so on. Babies that aren't born with these modifications but are instead done naturally are doomed for life because the new way of determining who is better for a job or task is by doing a blood test that reveals all of your qualities. The main character is born naturally and wants a job that only modified people are able to get, and he has to work harder than any of them to get the same thing.

His drive and ability to achieve great things despite his genetic inferiority reminded me of myself and my poker problems. To get what I want in poker I can't rely on my natural god given talent, I have to work my ass off. And I can't get discouraged when I see people like Jamie killing the game so quickly and easily because I'm not him and I don't have the same starting ground he does. I just have to work even harder knowing that I will get there eventually.

With all that said, I'm revising my goal. My goal right now is to be destroying NL200 by the end of the year, at the same level and with the same confidence that I currently beat NL25. I'd also like to be rolled for NL400 and starting to play there as my main limit, but knowing that I can always play NL200 for easy profit cause I have huge BR for it and am skilled enough to easily kill it.

I think this is a very realistic and achievable goal for me. I think having this in my sights instead of 5/10 will allow me to develop at the right pace instead of pushing myself too fast based on the results other people more naturally skilled than me had, and then inducing myself to tilt cause I'm not getting where I want to be.

For the rest of this month I plan to play NL25/NL50 and most likely won't check what my BR is. I haven't checked it in about 3.5 days and I've played at least 5k hands over that time of NL50/NL25. I'm definitely not going to try NL100 again till at least 2.5k, and probably will wait till 3k. I'm going to spend my time on NL25/NL50 focusing on identifying my basic weaknesses and leaks in my ABC game and trying to plug them. I'm playing 12-16 tables right now which has been fun and is nice cause I get myself into so many situations so quickly that I get a lot of practice in a short period of time. Since I'm playing very standard TAG ABC I'm mostly reinforcing things I already knew, which I think I needed to do. I've started getting so fancy that I'm becoming my own worst enemy @ NL100.

That's the plan. Let's hope it works!

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Craigerson   United States. May 21 2008 13:38. Posts 1281

if you want to find your leaks lower the amount of tables you play... but at those limits... i don't see you finding too many leaks since everyone is just so awfully bad.


k2o4   United States. May 21 2008 14:03. Posts 4803

meh, my biggest leak is calling when I know I'm beat - overall my inability to fold. I can practice that at any stake.

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TheHuHu   United States. May 21 2008 14:32. Posts 4271

Good luck.

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lebowski   Greece. May 21 2008 16:11. Posts 9205

hm, perhaps some people have a faster/better learning ability in general


..it's a different way to say that perhaps I'm retarded

btw myth has had some problems too lately,it's not that variance can't hit you hard if you're good

I'm telling you,poker ain't ez

new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man... 

k2o4   United States. May 21 2008 16:49. Posts 4803


  On May 21 2008 15:11 lebowski wrote:

I'm telling you,poker ain't ez



that's definitely true =)

Yeah I feel bad saying it but myth having the downswing gave me hope, lol.

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RS_II   United States. May 22 2008 02:10. Posts 748

what good will not looking at your bankroll do? Is it that looking at it will cause you some kind of psychological harm or really bad feeling?

I think your issue is more psychological than anything... It seems you are putting a shitload of pressure on yourself to really succeed. I don't know if you work, or what kind of financial situation you might have but the sooner you remove your emotional connection to your roll the more effective of a player you'll become.

Here's a long story that has some similarities and relevancy to yours, imho:

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SKoT: I got 99 problems and a bitch aint 1Last edit: 22/05/2008 02:14

k2o4   United States. May 22 2008 09:27. Posts 4803

I like how you chose BOB as the example - I've watched the entire thing about 4 times. It's the best ww2 shit by far.

Yeah yesterday I started feeling like I needed to have a reboot of my mind. I realized how much calmer I used to be. That's part of why I'm doing the lower stakes mass multi-tabling. It's allowing me to get used to losing money and not caring again. Not looking at the BR is cause I'm trying to refocus myself on only paying attention to how I play and not how much I won/lost.

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SemPeR   Canada. May 24 2008 21:46. Posts 2288

If I could recommend a book, k2o4...I believe The Poker Mindset would be a great read for you. (edit after typing this: it's kinda long, lol. Soz.)

Perhaps you've read it, and if you have, I want to just highlight the part about goal-setting / realistic perceptions about poker. It stresses beyond any other point, not to set goals that are out of your direct control. It's a complicated topic in some ways, and very, very counter-intuitive to most people, but so crystal clear if you take the time to think it through.

Basically, goals like "I want x $ by y time" or "playing at x limit by y time" (which is essentially the same goal) or even "play x hands by y time" can actually hinder your growth as a poker player. These goals are definitely out of your control, because nobody knows what will happen. If you go on a bad run, you don't reach your goal, and for the most part, it could from no fault of your own. Then you go on tilt, or nitpick at parts of your game trying to change stuff up. Your "mentality goes to shit" (I laughed when you said that like months back in that free pokerzion 50nl 6max lesson. rofflz), and there's no telling what might happen from there.

I really like the last example, because "play x hands by y time" has been a real problem for me. You essentially force yourself to keep playing at times when you probably shouldn't. I switched from stars to party because they have insanely frequent bonuses. So I end up cashing out 1/2 my roll, waiting for the bonus, then grinding out a mindless game learning very little with a shitty winrate, and all of my profits are off the bonus (which end up being like, WAY less than if I played without the bonus and was careful with everything: the MOST IMPORTANT being your session lengths/detecting tilt).

I'm just a 10nl/25nl grinder now (jumping up and down with my ultra-conservative br reqs...never actually "taking a shot". >.>, and I think psychologically, I've learned a lot about handling swings/just being calm when shit happens. The biggest downside of a lot of this is if you aren't careful, it flips and you concentrate on the negative so often it's disgusting. I'm 100% sure my nittiness (br management is just one thing) is slowing me down, and that's what I feel I really need to work on. It's no sot much I'm risk-adverse, I life for being objective about things and seeing them as they are, but sometimes your mind will just interpret stuff in a certain way and you're left to wonder if you're right about it or not.



Anyway, I don't have enough experience to know how much of this is really truthful, useful advice, but there's my 2 cents. Haven't played any poker in about a week, which has been kinda getting on my nerves (school/bad time management is a big lifeleak for me) >.>

I think not thinking about your BR is a great level detachment, keep it up. But you can take it father/refine the idea. Set a br-requirement for 100nl, and before you *start* every session, check if you have enough (review hhs before this so it doesn't affect your thinking, if you think that is needed). If you do have enough, take your shot. I think skill-wise, from the little I've seen, you can probably beat it.

Don't let the variance get you down. I mean, say MidaiN had a bad month at 100nl moving up to 200 or something, maybe something happened in his life unrelated to his skill at poker = a few weeks off -> coming back completely out of his element, or he was unlucky enough to sit down with some good regs at some bad tables the first few times he was taking shots and lost a good % of his br. He's still the same person with the same natural skill, but mentally, he must have felt the crunch there. Let's say he didn't, and you are, right now. All in the realm of possibility, no?


 



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