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jewlian   Canada. Jul 20 2008 17:40. Posts 153
I've always been a skeptic of work out gimmicks and programs I've seen on TV. Machines that can trim your stomach line with vibration, yeah right. The P90X advertisement has been no stranger to my television set but there was never any interest in it.

One day I was discussing work outs with a friend that was prepping for the army. I mentioned my lackluster style of exercise which included bench presses, basic curls and some cardio. Better than nothing of course but not disciplined at all. I wasn't making any huge gains and I suppose the best it did was keep maintenance. My friend berated me for my piss poor devotion and told me to try out the P90X system.

I lol'd pretty hard until he said he was using it. This guy used to be pretty skinny but now he was cut like a diamond. He was evidence so I figured I'd try it out. He warned me about how intense it could get but shrugged it off, thinking he was exaggerating a bit at this point.

Got the DVD's and manual, it was pretty easy to set up and go. Equipment was very basic, the only thing I had to buy was a chin up bar which was only 20$. Started the first DVD and wow, what a nightmare. This was the most intense work out I've ever done and I hurled right after. The next morning, my body was like a board, I couldn't move any joints or I'd be reeling in pain. Ahh, the delicious pain of muscle soreness...

I'm on week three and the results have been fantastic. Body fat percentage has dropped down two percent to ten. My arms are already bigger and my chest is more defined. Pretty awesome stuff. Poker players are prone to get lazy from all that sitting down so if you want something that will really give you a nice work out, try P90X.

(I am not affiliated with Beachbody or P90X in any way, just trying to give you guys a heads up on this awesome program.)

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TalentedTom    Canada. Jul 20 2008 18:37. Posts 20070

it's a ridiciously intense program, even if you do half of what they suggest you'll get incredible results, goo d luck

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Venrae   United States. Jul 20 2008 19:03. Posts 1545

I've heard a lot about this. I'll definitely check it out ^^

EDIT: lolwut? not leg workouts?

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SfydjkLm   Belarus. Jul 20 2008 19:07. Posts 3810

lol.
Its not like coming up with a program is hard.
its sticking to it what most people have problems with.


personally i would suggest- books by Ross Emanait- http://www.rosstraining.com/
now this motherfucker is hardcore

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jewlian   Canada. Jul 20 2008 19:11. Posts 153


  On July 20 2008 18:03 Venrae wrote:
I've heard a lot about this. I'll definitely check it out ^^

EDIT: lolwut? not leg workouts?



There are leg workouts but they aren't really that intense (compared to back/arms/shoulders/chest, I still get a good burn). You could probably look for other exercises for leg days.

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jewlian   Canada. Jul 20 2008 19:15. Posts 153


  On July 20 2008 18:07 SfydjkLm wrote:
lol.
Its not like coming up with a program is hard.
its sticking to it what most people have problems with.


personally i would suggest- books by Ross Emanait- http://www.rosstraining.com/
now this motherfucker is hardcore



I never said it was easy, I was trying to show people how P90X works for me. Some people don't have the time to do the research to come up with a full routine, so this is a convenient method that gets you results. The beauty of P90X is that it continually motivates you to keep going with a preset regiment of exercises and whatnot. Thanks for the link though, I'll check that out.

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SfydjkLm   Belarus. Jul 20 2008 19:35. Posts 3810


  On July 20 2008 18:15 jewlian wrote:
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I never said it was easy, I was trying to show people how P90X works for me. Some people don't have the time to do the research to come up with a full routine, so this is a convenient method that gets you results. The beauty of P90X is that it continually motivates you to keep going with a preset regiment of exercises and whatnot. Thanks for the link though, I'll check that out.

Well its just that i despise programs of that sort- that make you look good but give u no substance. I was always the Emelianenko type of guy, its about what i can do not what i look like =P I understand that most people prolly dont care about actual strength, but even those who dont should check Ross out- his routines are real toughies, and will supply u with both looks and actual strength; and his break down of how and why is real simple and accessible. Also his books are cheap!(they are crap quality tho xD)

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terrybunny19240   United States. Jul 20 2008 21:49. Posts 13829

Not a good program if you are are skinnier dude looking to get bigger-- just FYI to anyone who's goals aren't to lose weight.


bigbb33   Canada. Jul 20 2008 21:59. Posts 3679

It's basically the AOL of bodybuilding, if you are completely retarded in your previous program you will see improvements, otherwise not. So yeah, I'm not surprised that you as a clueless 'bench and curl' guy got improvements from it, but anyone with even a basic understanding of how to design a workout can come up with something superior to it.

Oh and yeah it's geared toward endomorphs/overweight mesomorphs, if you are an ecto and skinny trying to add mass it's an incredibly ineffecient program.

Summary: it's overpriced and you could come up with a free and better program with 10-15 minutes of internet browsing.

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bigbb33   Canada. Jul 20 2008 22:06. Posts 3679

To add to my last post, I came off really negative on it. That's because I see it as kind of a program for suckers, for people who don't know anything and end up wasting a large amount of money when they could have gotten something superior for free and less time than it takes to order P90X. If you are getting results from it and find it's structure to keep you on track, good for you and best of luck with it. To me, though, it goes in the bin with 'The Secret' and '92 Tips to Business Success'.

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terrybunny19240   United States. Jul 20 2008 22:22. Posts 13829

Oh since we are being constructive I might as well add al ink for the guys looking to put on weight/get bigger and stronger. Great program right here. Its pretty long but worth the read.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=998224



bigbb33   Canada. Jul 20 2008 22:58. Posts 3679

I disgaree with Night, Starting Strength is more for functional strength/sports training. You don't need it if you are bodybuilding (ie you want a sexier body), as it's just sub-standard compared to any random bodybuilding routine with respect to building a sexier body (ie hypertrophy (muscle mass increase) aka bodybuilding).

You need to understand your goals tho: do you want primarily a better LOOKING body, or primarily a better PERFORMING body? If you do a bodybuilding routine you'll get a better looking body after X number of days than you will with a functional routine like Starting Strength, but you'll also have less overall functional strength gains after X days compared to functional routine like Starting Strength. Obviously there is significant overlap between both types of routines, bodybuilding vs functional, but choose which one you want based on your primary goal.

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terrybunny19240   United States. Jul 20 2008 23:31. Posts 13829

Well, personally I needed a reset or something. I was doing various split routines for over a year and just didn't gain much mass. I think SS is a very good thing to start with for either goal. Having a solid foundation (squat/bench/press/row) will help everyway... Then after a couple of months goto a body building routine.

I am mostly recommending it for the guys starting out small, like me (I started @ 5'11" 140LB like 1.5 years ago I am 155lb now, 5 lb in the past 2 weeks). Getting the mass and strength up has been my problem.. SS is helping greatly with this since I recently switched.

Iunno, feel free to disagree, this is just what's working for me right now-- We'll how I'm looking in 3 months when I've switch back to a more bodybuilding-focused routine and have cut some of the fat I'll of gained.

(I'll be amazed if I reach 10% body fat; it'll be a lifetime first lol)


fenner   Australia. Jul 21 2008 00:07. Posts 2188

i do a couple of press ups and sit ups before i goto bed and when i wake up, takes 2 minutes but its better than nothing


mrpav.com   Canada. Jul 21 2008 00:29. Posts 3069

It all comes down to diet, its %60 diet, 30% working out and %10 genetics. You can do all the working out you want, if you don't eat right good luck seeing results.

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terrybunny19240   United States. Jul 21 2008 00:55. Posts 13829


  On July 20 2008 23:29 mrpav.com wrote:
It all comes down to diet, its %60 diet, 30% working out and %10 genetics. You can do all the working out you want, if you don't eat right good luck seeing results.



Very true about the diet. Something I've also been fixing the past couple weeks (or trying to atleast). Basically I just have trouble getting enough calories a day.


bigbb33   Canada. Jul 21 2008 02:46. Posts 3679

Wanted to add to my previous posts:

Good job on your gains. I'm glad you found something that works for you, even if its not what I would recomment, as long as you are gaining it's all good. Keep it up!

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ChromaX   Bulgaria. Jul 21 2008 09:29. Posts 392

I dunno about the other TV shits but p90x REALLY works

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SKoT   United States. Jul 21 2008 10:16. Posts 1768

p90 is a little outrageous, you'd do better cutting out 500 calories a day and aiming to burn as many or more at the gym and doing a good amount of cardio along with freeweights. That way you can just go to the gym casually forever instead of busting your ass at p90 for 90 days and then not having a gym work ethic na mean


 



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