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k2o4   United States. Jul 22 2008 13:27. Posts 4803
Johnny boy must be crazy to be putting out an ad like this... blaming Obama for the high gas prices, lolololol... and McCain actually said he would run a respectful campaign and go away from the attack ads, then he does this. Desperationnnnnn!

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FactCheck.org had fun dismissing this utter BS.


  A Full Tank of Nonsense

McCain ad says Obama's the guy to thank for emptying our wallets at the filling station. We say that's ridiculous.

Summary
McCain's new ad accuses Obama of keeping gas prices high, all by himself. That's absurd, and McCain knows it – he has said repeatedly that our current problems were "30 years in the making."

The ad also tells us that gas prices are high because "some in Washington are still saying no to drilling in America." Not true. The federal government's estimate is that if the moratorium on offshore drilling were lifted today, it would be 2030 before we'd see a noticeable effect on supply and prices.

For the same reason, it's simply not true that drilling more now will "rescue our family budgets."

Analysis
Sen. John McCain, who's expected to receive the Republican presidential nomination in September, goes after Sen. Barack Obama, his Democratic counterpart, with a new ad that focuses on the cost of gas. According to McCain's campaign, the spot will air on national cable channels and in unspecified "key states."

The ad opens with a shot of an old-fashioned gas pump standing on a shimmering, moving, body of – water? desert sand? petroleum? It's hard to tell. The female narrator says: "Gas prices – $4, $5, no end in sight, because some in Washington are still saying no to drilling in America. No to independence from foreign oil."

"Some" are indeed opposed to lifting the moratorium on new drilling in the waters of the Outer Continental Shelf, and they include Obama.

What's not true, however, is that current opposition to lifting the moratorium has anything to do with today's gas prices. They aren't high because any one individual is against ending the ban. As we have pointed out previously, the Energy Information Administration estimates that if the go-ahead were given right now for such drilling, it would be 2030 before there would be enough oil flowing to have a "significant impact on domestic crude oil and natural gas production or prices." Is there "no end in sight" because of opposition to ending the moratorium? No more so than because of opposition to hastening the development of alternative sources of energy and new kinds of cars. But most experts believe that if we haven't implemented other strategies well before 2030, we're in deep trouble.

As for saying "no to independence from foreign oil," we suppose someone, somewhere, might be saying that – quietly, to themselves, in a small, soundproof room – but no major-party presidential candidate that we're aware of is doing so.



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ggplz   Sweden. Jul 22 2008 13:50. Posts 16784

the reason the gas prices are 'high' is because the dollar is getting weaker and weaker, lol..

i saw some clip on youtube where like someone compared the value of silver -> dollars in 19xx year and the price of gas, then compared how silver-> dollars was nowadays and noticed silver was worth almost exactly what it would have to be to explain the high prices (due to weaker dollar)

anyway, stop moaning u fuckin nits we get raped over here $8/gallon is standard

that ad is pretty pathetic

also arent they not drilling in america because of the whole idea that once the 'world runs out of oil' that america will still have SOME left to be drilled or whatever...?

if poker is dangerous to them i would rank sports betting as a Kodiak grizzly bear who smells blood after you just threw a javelin into his cub - RaiNKhANLast edit: 22/07/2008 14:14

wakeboarrder   United States. Jul 22 2008 13:55. Posts 444

we need drilling in america its sfobv or gas prices are going to continue to rise higher and higher. Gas prices arent higher because the dollar is weaker lol look at the prices over in europe? UHHHH theyve been doubled ours for years. Its all the middle eastern countries choices to charge however much for oil. By the time oil runs out we will have different ways of powering vehicles, heating homes, etc. This ad is the truth.


ggplz   Sweden. Jul 22 2008 14:26. Posts 16784

heres the vid i saw

if poker is dangerous to them i would rank sports betting as a Kodiak grizzly bear who smells blood after you just threw a javelin into his cub - RaiNKhAN 

Fraser   Canada. Jul 22 2008 14:46. Posts 4605


  On July 22 2008 12:55 wakeboarrder wrote:
we need drilling in america its sfobv or gas prices are going to continue to rise higher and higher.


maybe, does that mean offshore drilling is justified/the only option?

 
Gas prices arent higher because the dollar is weaker


its definitely part of the problem

 
lol look at the prices over in europe? UHHHH theyve been doubled ours for years.


So?

 
Its all the middle eastern countries choices to charge however much for oil.


You get more oil from Canada than anywhere else. Its a semi-competitive market.

 
By the time oil runs out we will have different ways of powering vehicles, heating homes, etc.


High oil prices are the only thing that drives this change.

 
This ad is the truth.

You really think Obama is against independence from foreign oil?


wakeboarrder   United States. Jul 22 2008 14:51. Posts 444

i hate obama bottom line. Could be because im a business man and not some poor piece of shit. always been a republican and always will.


ggplz   Sweden. Jul 22 2008 15:00. Posts 16784

if poker is dangerous to them i would rank sports betting as a Kodiak grizzly bear who smells blood after you just threw a javelin into his cub - RaiNKhANLast edit: 22/07/2008 15:07

lebowski   Greece. Jul 22 2008 15:12. Posts 9205


  On July 22 2008 13:51 wakeboarrder wrote:
i hate obama bottom line. Could be because im a business man and not some poor piece of shit. always been a republican and always will.


poor piece of shit?
u should adore poor people, you are rich because of them

new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man... 

k2o4   United States. Jul 22 2008 15:46. Posts 4803


  On July 22 2008 13:51 wakeboarrder wrote:
i hate obama bottom line. Could be because im a business man and not some poor piece of shit. always been a republican and always will.



Well unless you're a top business man (like 260k +) Obama is likely to be giving you a tax cut, as well as lot's more people below you than mccain will help.

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DarkDevildog   United States. Jul 22 2008 15:47. Posts 1764

I think whoever would propose making this affordable to the country would win the election. either of these.

Saltwater as Fuel


Another Guy who invented basically the same thing

and after you watch those, you might as well Rick Roll Yourself

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JYang   United States. Jul 22 2008 15:53. Posts 2669

obama support online poker

and not like presidents really chance much anyway


Moffa   United States. Jul 22 2008 16:12. Posts 617

I need gasoline, my firebirds don't run on hopes and dreams.
America needs to figure it out.

Dangerous, but worth the risk. 

checkfold   . Jul 22 2008 16:47. Posts 8


  According to McCain's campaign, the spot will air on national cable channels and in unspecified "key states."



im guessing southern states because they know them damn coloureds cant be trusted! Deliverance anyone?

That rug really tied the room together 

Funktion   Australia. Jul 22 2008 18:00. Posts 1638

Obama is responsible for our high gas prices as well I guess. I will send this clip to Kevin Rudd so he can stop all the enquiries.

The funniest/saddest thing about this ad is that a huge bunch of americans are dumb enough to believe it.


newbie.cjb   United States. Jul 22 2008 18:35. Posts 3096


G W BUSH FOR PREZZ!

my lose is a win. my wins are nothing. 

k2o4   United States. Jul 22 2008 22:37. Posts 4803


  On July 22 2008 12:55 wakeboarrder wrote:
we need drilling in america its sfobv or gas prices are going to continue to rise higher and higher. Gas prices arent higher because the dollar is weaker lol look at the prices over in europe? UHHHH theyve been doubled ours for years. Its all the middle eastern countries choices to charge however much for oil. By the time oil runs out we will have different ways of powering vehicles, heating homes, etc. This ad is the truth.



Honestly this is the guy that I added the FactCheck.org article for - so he could read it and see why the ad was BS. Why is it that ignorant people prefer to stay that way =(

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