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Korea (South). Jul 24 2008 09:02. Posts 6817

Argh accidently clicked some button and lost everything I'd written just as I was about to copy paste the last hand :D Guess I'll re-do it.

2 hours or so of play. Obviously a very small sample but I'm very happy to finally have decent looking stats, especially the W$WSF. Need to spend some time in PT/Propokertools and figure out 3betting tho.

I'll probably start dipping my toes into the 1/2 games once I do figure it out.

Halpmeh!:
http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/491075 - As i started this session I was listening to a DC plo video and they were talking about how in some situations you can be behind with the nuts (vs like fd and set, or fd and straight draw), and they suggested checking behind. In this case, I don't even have the nuts AND the board lends itself very well to them having fd+sd or fd+set.. Is it ok to check behind then call/call or call/vbet (maybe fold flushcard I suppose)?

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/491077 - Too many draws to bet the flop? Is betting the river a good idea (since he checked twice, he probably doesn't have THAT much) or do I have enough showdown value?

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/491078 - Villain is a regular, 2p2er I think, running like 30/15. Not played with him a ton. On flop I have a gutshot and FD so seems like an obligatory call at least (I don't know much about his 3betting range actually). On the turn I'm now double gutted (I didn't realize this at first) and I have 31% equity vs a set.. Do I get it in (I'm almost getting the odds to get it in anyway, and sometimes I'm winning vs a worse draw/have very good equity vs a worse draw w a pair)? At the time I didn't realize my equity was that good so I folded.

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/491082 - I'm thinking if he has a boat, I'm gonna get a lot of bets in on the river (or get c/r on the turn), and by raising turn I'm chasing all the draws away. On the river I think I need to at least raise and get the shortstacks money in since I can't rely on the last guy raising.

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/491085 - Anyone like a raise here (blockers to KQ) or a call and bluffing all pairs / valuebetting spades (obvioiusly)?

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/491089 - Bet turn? Valuebet river? After 2 checks I'd be surprised if I'm beat here but do I actually get called by anything?

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/491090 - This might be terrible.. Bet turn? Reasoning went something like.. he's very tight, the 9 is bad cause 9TXX is part of a million hands (then I realize he's in the BB :D), I fold out any draw.. Bet/bet/bet superior? If I bet turn and raise do I have to fold? (he's like 16/8 or something btw)

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/491092 - Hand right after, same villain. Only seen him 3bet once, vs a halfstack where he made it slightly less than pot, then halfpotted a 89Xrainbow flop (or 87), then put the villain in for his last like 16 bucks on a 7 turn and the guy folded. I think he has aces most likely, and I'm in position with a not TOTALLY useless hand, getting an alright price, and my 3x raise means his 3bet wasn't very big.

On the flop do I raise or call? It's a great flop obviously but if I raise, do I only get played with when he has like a set or a NFD? If I call and turn comes this way, I'm obviously betting if he checks (and folding out AA** that bricked like always I'd assume) but if he bets again I just pass?

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/491097 - Probably best hand on turn, and a double gutshot.. On river, all the draws missed so I think I almost have to call :o

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/491098 - The guy turned out to be quite a maniac (90/76) but at this time I'd only seen him 3bet me once (bvb, I called with 98TQ single suited, and we checked down a 8d 6h Qs 2c 2h where I folded to a pot bet on the river). Seeing as how he checked down his raggy AA here, should I be leading into him when I get a flop like this in the future, to prevent him from potcontrolling?

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/491099 - Call or fold preflop?

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/491102 - By now this was the 3rd time he 3bet me out of 3 opens (actually the hand above he coldcalled a 3bet so 3/4 opens then), my hand is a decent sized favorite over any 4, ship it in? I have 42% equity vs 4 random cards on the flop but

Probably better to go with it preflop than on this flop?

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/491108 - When leslieace (who is not very good, but a regular of sorts) coldcalls, should I still 4bet my raggy AA**? The original 3bettor seems very bad by the way, saw him call down 2 streets with like 85** on a 854 2 club board. To this action, pretty easy muck on the flop I think.

Various:
http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/491070 - Pretty terrible calls by him I'd say

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/491071 - Standard I think.
http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/491079 - Very standard I think

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/491094 - Very standard.
http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/491095 - Standard, but wow his equity is pretty good even with his FD dead.

Will go through PT and look for more hands later possibly, now dinner I suppose. Thanks for any input.

Also, I know 2p2 used to have these private tournaments (like super cheap), like 1 cent buyin for whenever they have one of their HU tournaments or something. Is it possible to create these yourself? I'd love to play a ton of these for practice.

EDIT: Hm, you can create your own tournaments on william hill (crypto) :D

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Hm.. Off-suite socks..

Last edit: 25/07/2008 09:58

Python817 Canada. Jul 24 2008 09:23. Posts 2733

seems like everyones learning omaha

RS_II United States. Jul 24 2008 13:43. Posts 748

working on commenting on your hands, unfortunately we have totally different schedules dude but hopefully down the road, maybe on like on a weekend or something i can wake up early enough to sweat you, but honestly i think you are well on your way from what i'm seeing. probably won't even need it imo. +3 buy-in and +2 buy-in days in this game is a good day.

SKoT: I got 99 problems and a bitch aint 1