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TianYuan    Korea (South). Aug 02 2008 14:55. Posts 6817


Very happy with my play today overall, would have been up 200$ more but the last hand I played I ran AA** into another AA** and some random hand, and lost. Oh well, c'est la vie

Was able to 6 table so it took just under 3 hours, might up the amount of hands I play per day or just do it like this then play some HU later in the day.

Hands! - comments appreciated.

I felt a c/r here could get him to call some hands like sets (and hopefully fold them on blanks), flushdraws etc (although I dont really want fds to call ) while folding out 2 pair, overpairs, or other hands that are ahead of me. I dunno what I think about calling, my flush outs are a) going to be very obvious b) might not be good, although I do have a gutshot.. And I could bluff at paired boards I suppose.
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I think this is ok, was a bit hesitant about betting turn. Would *really* suck to get bluff c/red by like the Kc here tho On the other hand, charging a set might be a good enough reason to bet.. But I'm probably only getting one street from a straight (if that, and most likely on the river) AND a set might call me on the river if I check back turn.
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I was considering if I could call turn and bluff spades if they came in (assuming I didn't boat), but I wasn't sure it'd be believable for me to call two pot bets with just a flushdraw. On the other hand, I'm an unknown so maybe I'd get credit for that.
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This fold feels verrrrry dirty because he's really only repping two hands - KK** with an ace high diamond flushdraw (or possibly Ad blocker) or AA** with diamonds. Of course on flop and turn he can have just the ace high draw but when he pots a board pairing card I don't think he has just a flush (esp. since my line could EASILY be a set). I don't know if he'd naked ace bluff (he's 20/3.5/1.5 over 1k hands) and I don't know if on the river he'd realize it's not really a great spot to continue bluffing with it since he'd be repping a different hand from what he had earlier etc.. Bleh. I don't like folding here but it seems correct vs someone so tight..
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I think because I'll dominate some of his draws, that this can't be too bad.
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If he bets this flop, I have to.. fold? I thiiiiink? Now that he checks flop, can I bet turn or is he trapping too often? He seemed like a regular btw. If I had a better flushdraw should I be calling one or is it really more of a question of "if you think his 3betting range is almost only AA, fold, if not, you should push", that type of deal?
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Am I better off just bet/folding this, charging some draws.. I feel like if I c/c then it's like saying "sup, I have some mediocre shit with outs, feel free to pot pot pot me out of the pot". And calling to bluff is meh because one of the hands he gets a license to pot pot pot me with is a flushdraw so bluffing hearts isn't gonna be great. =/
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Pretty much standard I would think.. How deep do I have to be to consider doing anything else?
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Am I betting too thin here? Perhaps I'm better off not charging a set here (if he has one) and just checking, which might get me one more street vs a set anyway, and allows me to pick off some bluffs + strengthens my check. Reason I'm asking is I seemed to be getting raised on the turn a whole lot when I was betting marginal hands. That being said, there IS a flushdraw out there..~ Maybe I should even be willing to call down, a turn minraise just seems so much like the nuts tho.
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Same as above sort of.. Although this might be an even clearer check. I was thinking I could fold out some hands that beat me (small overpair, a good jack, a better flushdraw) and if he has a 5 that isn't a boat he's gonna check/call and not c/r.. Etc. Meh, I would like to see a river tho
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I'm not sure if I should be raising flop here, I felt like keeping worse draws in was fine.. Turn I'm getting such a sweet price so ez call. River.. well, I don't think he bets a set on the turn (and I think he raises it on the flop), so I only think I'm beat if he had a better two pair with his straight.
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Villain is realllly fishy, I felt compelled to call river after checking turn (which I'm not sure I should be doing, but then , I didn't think I'd get called by a ton). I'm unsure what my equity here is vs the nuts (a straight), but the fact that my flushdraw isn't to the nuts might be an argument against raising flop (edit: pokerstoving vs the nuts I'm only 40% so ye, I'm not sure how awesome getting it in here would be really :D). I guess I can get it in vs set+fd or 2 pair+fd type hands which I *think* I have in pretty bad shape.
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Argh, I dunno if I played this awfully or not. I didn't want flop to get checked around since, well, half the deck sucks on the turn (or more). But I don't think I can call a snapshove from a solid player with just top 2 on this flop, I'm gonna be sooooo cooked a lot of the time it's not even funny.. Feels like a waste of money to bet 50 and fold tho =p Blah.
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Vs a full pot bet I would have certainly raised flop, now I'm not sure. I *thiiiink* I need to lead the turn here tho..
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I think I like my line here vs a quite aggressive reg type player..
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Not sure if preflop is too loose. I like my post flop play tho, since I don't think he can have a boat (maybe a turned set).
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This hand is sooooooo god damn pretty.. but it's also pretty crappy vs AA.. should I fold?
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Eh, vs a minraise it's pretty meh~ but getting it in seems fairly stnd.
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Maybe this is a trivially easy fold.. but at the same time he's probably betting everything he 3bets here and vs AA I have 33% equity. Meh. Probably not worth it with the fd out there.
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I was thinking how I was going to snap get it in here vs either player but then he did this loooooong timebank/pot which was super scary. But I decided he was crazy enough that I wasn't gonna fold.
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Always nice when your draw has more equity than a set
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Awwwww come on ! Last hand before the blinds hit me and I'm about to sit out. AA** vs AA** vs stuff. Of course all my 7s are dead too haha.
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Feels good to at least be putting a reasonable number of hands in each day

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Hm.. Off-suite socks..Last edit: 02/08/2008 15:05

gawdawaful   Canada. Aug 02 2008 15:32. Posts 9012

question for you:
whats your cbet%?

Im only good at poker when I run good 

TianYuan    Korea (South). Aug 02 2008 15:50. Posts 6817

I'm not sure and not sure where to look (feel free to enlighten me, I never knew where to find this statistic in the old PT clients, it's easy to find in PT3 at least).
But probably reasonably high (in hold'em I think I cbet less than most tho).

Hm.. Off-suite socks.. 

Shabbzoy   United Kingdom. Aug 02 2008 16:08. Posts 841

dont you play any holdem currently?


gawdawaful   Canada. Aug 02 2008 16:17. Posts 9012

um, I think in PT2, its in the "more statistics" or whatever button on the main screen, where you go in to check the box that includes pf aggression on the main page
Further down there should be a bunch of stats regarding the % of time you bet/check/raise/fold on flop/turn/river
I think thats where it is

Im only good at poker when I run good 

TianYuan    Korea (South). Aug 02 2008 19:28. Posts 6817

Ye but I think that includes when I call a raise too? Like, it's not only hands where I was the PF raiser..

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Here they are tho, I'm not sure how to calculate my cbet % from this.. Like, I'm assuming the times we didn't see a flop has to be removed, then the times I get donkbet into or something, I don't even have a chance to cbet in those spots so are they counted?

Hm.. Off-suite socks..Last edit: 02/08/2008 19:41

 



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