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Sicks Macks   United States. Aug 15 2008 18:50. Posts 3929
I don't tend to try and read opponents too much. I keep an eye out for general tendencies (opening hands, 3 betting hands etc), but I'm usually a guy who just tries to get money in with the nuts, and raise strong openers. Well, I finally got what I thought was my first genuine read on a player, and decided to hero call because of it... and I get a face full of variance. Oh well.


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Full Tilt Poker Game #7663282827: Table Marcella (6 max) - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 20:39:06 ET - 2008/08/15
Seat 1: BADHORSEE ($11.45)
Seat 2: exfinity ($7.20)
Seat 3: gopeto123 ($4.80)
Seat 4: mattimads1 ($4.10)
Seat 5: Hero ($13.30)
Seat 6: Grinder Bob ($11.90)
BADHORSEE posts the small blind of $0.05
exfinity posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #6

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Hero Ad5d
gopeto123 calls $0.10
mattimads1 folds
Hero raises to $0.30
Grinder Bob folds
BADHORSEE calls $0.25
exfinity calls $0.20
gopeto123 calls $0.20

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $1.20)

   4cJc5h
BADHORSEE bets $1.20
exfinity folds
gopeto123 folds
Hero has 15 seconds left to act
Hero has requested TIME
Hero raises to $3
BADHORSEE raises to $11.15, and is all in
Hero has 15 seconds left to act
Hero has requested TIME
Hero calls $8.15
BADHORSEE shows 7s8s
Hero shows Ad5d

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $23.50)

   4cJc5h9s

River (Pot : $23.50)

   4cJc5h9s6c
BADHORSEE shows a straight, Nine high
Hero shows a pair of Fives
BADHORSEE wins the pot ($21.50) with a straight, Nine high

Summary
Total pot $23.50 | Rake $2
Board:  4cJc5h9s6c
Seat 1: BADHORSEE (small blind) showed 7s8s and won ($21.50) with a straight, Nine high
Seat 2: exfinity (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: gopeto123 folded on the Flop
Seat 4: mattimads1 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: Hero showed Ad5d and lost with a pair of Fives
Seat 6: Grinder Bob (button) didn't bet (folded)




Also I realize preflop was light; the limping was getting ridiculous... but I don't love A5s. Should have raised more (not that that would have changed anything here).

Apologies for the bad beat post, but I really have never called all in with middle pair in my life.

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flounder44   United States. Aug 15 2008 19:00. Posts 916

fyl that sucks! nice read


TianYuan    Korea (South). Aug 15 2008 19:17. Posts 6817

Yeah I'd make it a bit bigger preflop, but wtih a suited ace it's not the end of the world if it ends up multiway.

Only thing is that once you raise his flop donk you should snapcall his allin cause otherwise you shouldn't have raised =P

But v nice call actually.

Hm.. Off-suite socks..Last edit: 15/08/2008 19:17

SfydjkLm   Belarus. Aug 15 2008 19:20. Posts 3810

Noob thoughts:

i really think that trying to read players at these stakes will lead to disastrous results. Players here are just so unpredictable, and even if someone seems to be playing mechanically one way, oftentimes cant keep that mechanics for prolonged periods of time and start playing completely random.

Secondly, while calling with middle pair with a read like that is fine imo, 5 is just such a terrible pair. Youre putting him on gutshot or flush draw, and thats like what, 1 in 4? plus like any two cards he has would be overs.
edit: He woulda been a 55% favorite with a flush draw to be exact.

Plus people like that you can usually take money from at any point youre really ahead.

*wink wink*Last edit: 15/08/2008 19:28

Sicks Macks   United States. Aug 15 2008 19:37. Posts 3929

The range I worked out real quickly was basically 40fd/50air/10i'mfuckedbecauseofcombodrawssetsorajack. I obviously would like a better spot, but I honestly thought I was over 50 against his range and that's all I needed to call a raised pot.

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Sheitan   Canada. Aug 15 2008 20:55. Posts 4217

Fold A5s MP at nl10

Odds are exactly 50%, either happens or it doesnt  

capaneo   Canada. Aug 15 2008 22:41. Posts 8465

This is actually the best thing that can happen to you.
Turn off your fancy play syndrom at 10nl.

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Kilay   Netherlands. Aug 16 2008 05:00. Posts 1960


  On August 15 2008 21:41 capaneo wrote:
This is actually the best thing that can happen to you.
Turn off your fancy play syndrom at 10nl.



True, still pretty nice to get some confidence in yourself knowing you can read people or whatever since you was right on with the call there.


SfydjkLm   Belarus. Aug 16 2008 08:54. Posts 3810


  On August 16 2008 04:00 Kilay wrote:
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True, still pretty nice to get some confidence in yourself knowing you can read people or whatever since you was right on with the call there.

well he was putting his opponent on 50% air, however in this situation it will almost never be air, and when it is air its gonna be overs, which doesnt really help that much.

*wink wink* 

TheTrees   United States. Aug 16 2008 09:50. Posts 1592

really really don't like this play. Not at 10NL


Stat.Quo   Somalia. Aug 16 2008 13:32. Posts 1227

nice call, better luck next time


 



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