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k2o4 United States. Aug 30 2008 18:41. Posts 4803 | | |
To me McCain's VP pick screams desperation, is an insult to woman's intelligence assuming that they will vote for him cause there's a vagina and a pair of tits on his ticket, and shows the way he makes decisions is all about his gut and gambling. I'd rather not have a president who's willing to gamble our countries future on a political stunt, picking the least qualified/experienced VP in history, a woman who makes Obama look like a political veteran, a woman who doesn't believe in global warming and is staunchly anti-abortion (even in cases of rape).
I don't get it - according to Republicans Obama was too inexperienced to be president and was not ready to lead, but Palin (who is younger and has a shorter record than Obama) is a-ok? And considering how old McCain is and that he's had past health issues, his VP has a high chance of becoming president. Now I am not saying that she gets an auto thumbs down cause she has less experience - I don't believe in that. But it's so weird that republicans will bitch and moan about not enough experience from Obama therefore he can't be prez, but it doesn't bug em to have a VP with even less experience. Maybe the argument is that "it's VP, not the Prez, so it's different" but I feel that with a prez who has such a high chance of not finishing his full term that the VP is VERY important.
I believe that experience is not as important as good judgment, sound decision making, and the ability to hear all sides of an issue and come to an informed decision which respects all parties involved. I believe Obama has all those qualities and is smart enough to surround himself with very experienced people from both sides of the aisles and then take in all of their advice and reach smart conclusions. I also believe Obama has the ability to inspire people to take action and love their country even more than they do right now, to come together and work for a greater future for the entire USA. For me those things make up for the lack of experience. Plus, I do feel like he's had a decent amount of experience (8 years in State Senate, 4 years in the US senate, and time as a community organizer), though obviously not as long as many other politicians.
In comparison I think Palin has much less experience, to the point where I'm thinking "errr, this is pretty thin". I also don't see that same judgment. She doesn't believe in global warming. That's scary to me. She's very anti-abortion and is against exemptions for rape. She's also wrapped up in an investigation about her abuse of power, and after Cheney I've had enough power abusing VP shit to last me a life time.
Anyway, here's my little fact list I've been able to put together so far:
Former Beauty Queen
Star point guard
Sports reporter
Married HS sweetheart
5 kids
Oldest son heading to iraq on 9/11
Youngest son bon premature with down syndrome
Started in PTA
elected to city council
Mayor of small home town (8,471)
Govenor 2 years
Anti-corruption
Anti-Spending
Pro-Accountability
Pro-Life
Pro-Drilling in ANWAR
Pro-taking polar bears off endangered species list
Does not believe global warming is man made
Pro-Senator Ted Stevens bridge to nowhere before she was against it
Being investigated for abuse of power
Most popular governor in country (over 90% approval rating in alaska)
Enjoys moose as favorite meat
Husband is part eskimo (cool)
Called hillary clinton a "whiner"
rabid conservative
This was an interesting article from Politico.com on what McCain's decision says about who he is and what kind of leader he will be:
| | 1. He’s desperate. Let’s stop pretending this race is as close as national polling suggests. The truth is McCain is essentially tied or trailing in every swing state that matters — and too close for comfort in several states like Indiana and Montana the GOP usually wins pretty easily in presidential races. On top of that, voters seem very inclined to elect Democrats in general this election — and very sick of the Bush years.
McCain could easily lose in an electoral landslide. That is the private view of Democrats and Republicans alike.
McCain’s pick shows he is not pretending. Politicians, even “mavericks” like McCain, play it safe when they think they are winning — or see an easy path to winning. They roll the dice only when they know that the risks of conventionality are greater than the risks of boldness.
The Republican brand is a mess. McCain is reasonably concluding that it won’t work to replicate George W. Bush and Karl Rove’s electoral formula, based around national security and a big advantage among Y chromosomes, from 2004.
“She’s a fresh new face in a party that’s dying for one — the antidote to boring white men,” a campaign official said.
Palin, the logic goes, will prompt voters to give him a second look — especially women who have watched Democrats reject Hillary Rodham Clinton for Barack Obama.
The risks of a backlash from choosing someone so unknown and so untested are obvious. In one swift stroke, McCain demolished what had been one of his main arguments against Obama.
“I think we’re going to have to examine our tag line, ‘dangerously inexperienced,’” a top McCain official said wryly.
2. He’s willing to gamble — bigtime. Let’s face it: This is not the pick of a self-confident candidate. It is the political equivalent of a trick play or, as some Democrats called it, a Hail Mary pass in football. McCain talks incessantly about experience, and then goes and selects a woman he hardly knows, who hardly knows foreign policy and who can hardly be seen as instantly ready for the presidency.
He is smart enough to know it could work, at least politically. Many Republicans see this pick as a brilliant stroke because it will be difficult for Democrats to run hard against a woman in the wake of the Hillary Clinton drama. Will this push those disgruntled Hillary voters McCain’s way? Perhaps. But this is hardly aimed at them: It is directed at the huge bloc of independent women — especially those who do not see abortion as a make-or-break issue — who could decide this election.
McCain has a history of taking dares. Palin represents his biggest one yet. |
Click the link up top for the rest of it, he makes like 6 points. Lastly, here's what the Center for American Progress says:
| | With the choice of Gov. Sarah Palin (R-AK) as his running mate, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) is not backing down from oil drilling. Palin is a champion for drilling, the Bush-Cheney approach to energy policy that brought us $4.00-per-gallon gasoline and the rising threat of global warming.
Like McCain, Palin believes that oil drilling is the only solution to our energy problems. "I beg to disagree with any candidate who would say we can't drill our way out of our problem," she says. She supports more drilling in protected areas of the Outer Continental Shelf and the Alaska Natural Wildlife Refuge, once attacking McCain for his "close-mindedness on ANWR."
But the Department of Energy believes that offshore drilling "would not have a significant impact on domestic crude oil and natural gas production or prices before 2030." Moreover, about three-quarters of all the oil in public lands in the continental U.S. are already open to drilling - and yet only one quarter of this oil is under production. Opening the Arctic Refuge would cut gasoline prices by two cents in 17 years. For that, Palin would destroy the home of America's native polar bears. Not even T. Boone Pickens still thinks we can drill our way out of this crisis.
Palin rejects clean renewable energy that is an alternative to oil. Earlier this month, she claimed that "alternative-energy solutions are far from imminent and would require more than 10 years to develop."
Alaska has become the "poster state" for the threat of global warming as the climate gets hotter and dryer and sea levels rise. More than 100 towns are vulnerable due to eroding sea lines. Polar bears are threatened by the melting ice floats, and this month bears were spotted swimming as much as 50 miles offshore. |
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Feiticeira United Kingdom. Aug 30 2008 18:49. Posts 3047 | | |
I'd vote for her if I could do her. |
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k2o4 United States. Aug 30 2008 19:06. Posts 4803 | | |
| | On August 30 2008 17:49 Feiticeira wrote:
I'd vote for her if I could do her. |
hahahaah
Yeah what was I thinking, I should have just found all her beauty pageant pics (especially bikini ones) and posted em up. |
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its a smart choice imo because now hes gonna have alot of women leaning towards his side maybe? |
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lachlan Australia. Aug 30 2008 23:18. Posts 6991 | | |
will be interesting to say the least |
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k2o4 United States. Aug 31 2008 02:22. Posts 4803 | | |
wow, crazy - I'm not convinced yet but add up the weird birth circumstances, the daughter being pulled out of school and that picture of the daughter and man, it's definitely enough to warrant suspicion and a deeper look. Crazy.
EDIT: If the reports are right then the daughter was taken out of school at the point that she would have been 2-3 months pregnant and kept out until after the birth. Kinda funny timing. It also seems one report is she was sick with mono, another says she was listed as "homeschooled". Overall everything is sketchy and I don't think there's anything solid, but I do hope the press looks into this cause I wanna know the truth. That plane flight back to alaska is really fucking weird imo. |
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I find believing in global warming pretty hard too; at least, that it's man-made.
Also, she confirmed that her daughter is pregnant. And if you actually respect Obama, you'll follow his statement about leaving families out of it, and it being irrelevant. Though personally, I find it shows more character that she is going to have the baby and marry the father. You know, dealing with the consequences of one's own actions and all that. |
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k2o4 United States. Sep 01 2008 21:45. Posts 4803 | | |
Yeah I saw that this morning. The thing I find funny (and I mention this in my new blog post) is how the right wing goes after some people as sinners for being a pregnant 16 yr old out of wedlock, but backs up Palin.
My personal feeling? As far as the girl getting pregnant and keeping it, that's all good. I know girls who got pregnant in HS and kept the baby. Mistakes happen, whether you're taught abstinence or condoms, mistakes happen. If she wants to keep it that's great, but it would suck if she wanted to abort and was pressured into having it. That would be un-great. But as far as we can tell she wants to keep it and she is keeping it, awesome.
As far as the shotgun wedding, not so impressive. As far as how Sarah Palin handled it, not so impressive. The fact that they took the daughter out of school for 5 months to hide her away, and were lying to the media up till Saturday, doesn't impress me. What would impress me is if when she got pregnant they made it public, and they announced a wedding then. Right now it feels like they were trying to hide her away and got caught, so now they're organizing a wedding. If they're so pro-life and it's cool to keep the baby, why did they try and keep this a secret? Obviously it was going to come out, and the rumors all happened cause there was obviously something shady going on and people were trying to figure it out.
I'm not going to make a big deal about it overall though cause it's a small issue. It definitely doesn't make me like Sarah more though, cause the way I see it she lied. She also took this VP job at a time when her daughter needs her like crazy, and it was obvious that taking the job would put her daughters pregnancy in front of the entire world. She's putting her daughter through a hell of a lot that she didn't have to. |
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They weren't trying to hide it. Everyone in their hometown knew. But at the same time, they are people from a small town in Alaska; and if you know anything about people from small towns up north, they generally don't go around announcing things like this. They have very strong "Mind your own business" attitude, something I respect and wish we had a lot more of down here.
Also, it's the girl's decision to marry the father.
And yeah, lots of people on the right will go after others unjustly. There's a reason I'm a registered independent. Actually, there are a lot of reasons.
In other news, I have a bitchin' tan. |
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k2o4 United States. Sep 02 2008 12:51. Posts 4803 | | |
| | On September 02 2008 06:03 ObsoleteLogic wrote:
They weren't trying to hide it. Everyone in their hometown knew. But at the same time, they are people from a small town in Alaska; and if you know anything about people from small towns up north, they generally don't go around announcing things like this. They have very strong "Mind your own business" attitude, something I respect and wish we had a lot more of down here. |
Just curious, why pull her out of school then? And it seems it was rumors in the home town, not like the entire home town knew for sure.
| | Also, it's the girl's decision to marry the father. |
Then why has she suddenly decided to do this when her mom became the VP pick rather than 5 months ago?
| | And yeah, lots of people on the right will go after others unjustly. There's a reason I'm a registered independent. Actually, there are a lot of reasons. |
Glad to see you say that =) I was registered independent but wanted to vote in the primaries and in CO you have to be registered Dem to vote. I figure I'll stay registered dem unless something interesting comes up on the repub side and I have to register with em to vote in their primaries. It's funny cause I really do like a good amount of OLD republican ideas. New republicans, neocon republicans, are crazy and I don't agree with them on pretty much anything. But old school republicans have some good ideas.
Anyway, I don't think too badly of Bristol for getting preg - I think she's kinda stupid cause I've avoided it despite many a drunk condomless night, but I basically think all girls who get pregnant to be kinda stupid considering all the ways to avoid it. But note "kinda" cause at the same time, shit happens. Too many damn condoms have broken on me, that's for sure. And I don't think badly of Sarah Palin because her daughter got pregnant. That's BS. Kids have sex. I find it really funny that Sarah is pro-abstinence only and it totally failed with her daughter, but meh, that can go both ways cause plenty of mom's who want sex ed taught end up with pregnant daughters too.
I personally think teaching people all about safe sex while pushing them to remain abstinent is the best way to do it. That way you're using all preventative measures. My problem with the abstinence only approach is that when the kid does get into the situation where they break down and give in to their desire for sex, they don't have a clue how to prevent pregnancy, where if they'd been taught about condoms and so on they'd have a chance.
I don't think there's anything wrong with sex before marriage or in the teenage years, but I also think it's totally cool to wait too. I've met many a girl who wasn't ready for sex and I never tried to force it. Dated one girl exclusively for a while and she wanted to remain a virgin till marriage and that was totally fine. I actually stopped sex between us while drunk a few times cause I knew she really did want to stay a virgin but the alcohol + my sexy self was confusing her =) |
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k2o4 United States. Sep 02 2008 15:32. Posts 4803 | | | |
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k2o4 United States. Sep 02 2008 15:32. Posts 4803 | | |
btw, checking out the baby daddy's myspace page seems to reinforce the shotgun wedding idea:
| | On his MySpace page, Johnston boasts, "I'm a f - - -in' redneck" who likes to snowboard and ride dirt bikes.
"But I live to play hockey. I like to go camping and hang out with the boys, do some fishing, shoot some s- - - and just f - - -in' chillin' I guess."
"Ya f - - - with me I'll kick [your] ass," he added.
He also claims to be "in a relationship," but states, "I don't want kids." |
http://www.nypost.com/seven/09012008/...er_17_year_old_daughter_is_127025.htm |
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