k2o4   United States. Oct 09 2008 11:41. Posts 4803
JohnnyMac and Team McSame seem obsessed with focusing on Bill Ayers and Rev Wright - people Obama was associated with(and with Ayers it was a THIN relationship)- to try and say that Obama is "dangerous" for our country. I believe that if we're going to judge people on character issues, we should focus on what that person did, not what people around that person did. Seems to me like a more accurate way of finding out what type of person they are.
Hence the "Angry Fish" title. That's a good way to describe McCain. "Fish" comes from the fact that he's a huge roulette player that actually thinks he can beat the game... and he loves gambling. McCain is the type of guy high stakes players on LP make a living off of cause if he ever played poker he'd sit up at 3/6 or 5/10 or higher and play a 60/40/5 style. It's not like it matters if he loses it cause his wife can bankroll him to spew for a lifetime.
"Angry" comes from his horrible temper. And to illustrate it, I have a shitload of examples but want to start with one that happened at the roulette table to tie everything together:
McCain's game is craps. So is Jeff Dearth's. Jeff was at the table when McCain showed up and happily made room for him. Apparently there is some kind of rule or tradition in craps that everyone's hands are supposed to be above the table when the dice are about to be thrown. McCain--"very likely distracted by one of the many people who approached him that evening," Jeff says charitably--apparently was violating this rule. A small middle-aged woman at the table, apparently a "regular," reached out and pulled McCain's arm away. I'll let Jeff take over the story:
"McCain immediately turned to the woman and said between clenched teeth: 'DON'T TOUCH ME.' The woman started to explain...McCain interrupted her: 'DON'T TOUCH ME,' he repeated viciously. The woman again tried to explain. 'DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM? DO YOU KNOW WHO YOU'RE TALKING TO?' McCain continued, his voice rising and his hands now raised in the 'bring it on' position. He was red-faced. By this time all the action at the table had stopped. I was completely shocked. McCain had totally lost it, and in the space of about ten seconds. 'Sir, you must be courteous to the other players at the table,' the pit boss said to McCain. "DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM? ASK ANYBODY AROUND HERE WHO I AM."
This being Puerto Rico, the pit boss might not have known McCain. But the senator continued in full fury--"DO YOU KNOW WHO YOU'RE TALKING TO? DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM?"--and crisis was avoided only when Jeff offered to change places and stand between McCain and the woman who had touched his arm.
And then let me share my favorite 2 stories. First:
Perhaps the most remarkable story of McCain's temper involved Arizona Congressman Rick Renzi. Two former reporters covering McCain, one who witnessed the following events and one who confirmed the facts provided by the first, relayed it to me as follows: In 2006, the Arizona Republican congressional delegation had a strategy meeting. McCain repeatedly addressed two new members, congressmen Trent Franks and Rick Renzi, as 'boy.' Finally, Renzi, a former college linebacker, rose from his chair and said to McCain, "You call me that one more time and I'll kick your old ass." McCain lunged at Renzi, punches were thrown, and the two had to be physically separated. After they went to their separate offices, McCain called Renzi and demanded an apology. Renzi refused. Apparently this posture made McCain admire him, as they became fast friends.
And by far my favorite:
Three reporters from Arizona, on the condition of anonymity, also let me in on another incident involving McCain's intemperateness. In his 1992 Senate bid, McCain was joined on the campaign trail by his wife, Cindy, as well as campaign aide Doug Cole and consultant Wes Gullett. At one point, Cindy playfully twirled McCain's hair and said, "You're getting a little thin up there." McCain's face reddened, and he responded, "At least I don't plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you cunt." McCain's excuse was that it had been a long day. If elected president of the United States, McCain would have many long days.
Both of those are from a book called "The Real McCain"
Then there's also a huge 5 page article from the Washington Post here. That story covers some of the stuff I already mentioned and some of the stuff that is in the video below.
So what's worse? A guy who sat on a board with a reformed anti-war extremist from the Vietnam era, or a guy who obviously has trouble controlling his temper and constantly "shoots from the hip" in his decision making? I am comforted by Obama's cool demeanor and ability to calmly think in a crisis, examine all sides, take advice from all points of view and then come to a decision. He's shown that in his campaign and I'm sure he'll continue it as president. McCain on the other hand has been erratic as hell, especially since the financial crisis started, with his ridiculous campaign suspensions (where nothing was really suspended), to his contradicting comments on supporting bailouts and not supporting bailouts, and comments saying the fundamentals are strong but the next day this is a crisis... I personally don't trust McCain to be able to handle things diplomatically and believe he'll make rash decisions. He will fall back on the military too much as his only solution cause that's all he knows. Add in the bad temper and it scares me to think that he'd have the nuclear codes. To me that's "Dangerous".
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failsafe   United States. Oct 09 2008 11:52. Posts 1041
but dude, he's a maverick. this is how he rolls
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angryfishes   Australia. Oct 09 2008 11:56. Posts 410
sup thanks for making a post about me <3
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Artanis[Xp]   Netherlands. Oct 09 2008 11:59. Posts 4697
No matter what you say, he'll always be a Maverick in my eyes.
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k2o4   United States. Oct 09 2008 12:43. Posts 4803
Yeah that's true, this just shows how mavericky he really is. Fuck the idea that calling your wife a cunt is bad, mavericks fight the power and call their wives whatever they want! And don't you ever touch a maverick, it kills his luck at the craps tables!
isnt the black guy in the poster the inventor of bulletball?
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failsafe   United States. Oct 09 2008 14:22. Posts 1041
in continuation of my modestly conservative economic stance and my complete disdain for the united states government, i'm willing to extend TEN to ONE odds that if McCain is elected, he does NOT engage in nuclear war
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k2o4   United States. Oct 09 2008 14:58. Posts 4803
On October 09 2008 13:00 p4ge wrote:
isnt the black guy in the poster the inventor of bulletball?
rofl that's darth vadar's voice
I'd agree that chances of any prez using a nuke are low, but I put em higher with mccain than obama.
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Feiticeira   United Kingdom. Oct 10 2008 04:16. Posts 3047