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Babygrand   United States. Oct 14 2008 18:09. Posts 142 | | |
This past month has been the biggest roller coaster of my life/ poker career. I am a full time cash game player, but i am down like 25 out of my last 30 sessions. (Maybe even worse, I dont want to check PT cuz it is so bad) Every single time I sit I just know I am going to lose. I got perfect runner runnered by PoorUser and coolered a buncha times. But I just know it's going to happen. I know I am going to lose hands. I am 2 or 3 for my last 30 or so largest pots of $2500+.
I am the biggest critic of things like The Secret and other "energy" driven psychotic ideas. However, last week, I decided that I was going to be a psycho. Two days I guaranteed 5 figure days and performed focus and positive thinking "rituals" during every break. Ya, really weird. But when your ass is gettin handed to you, you might try anything. I ended up FTing the super tuesday and the second chance last week. Then I was in the 100 rebuy on wednesday I think it was. I looked at my roommate and said, "This one is mine, good luck in the quarter mill, Im not kidding." And I ended up actually taking it down.
I kind of thought, finally some luck came my way. So I entered in more cash games, only to get crushhhhed again in a horrible way. And the sick thing is... I knew I was going to lose and just sat to make sure of it!!! I know I am not outmatched in these games. Every game I sat in I watched the table, marked a donk, and knew the regs like I always have my whole career when playing above 3/6. So is being negative actually costing me session after session? I know experienced players know exactly what I am talking about. You know when you are in a hand and u just know 100% the 3 outer is hitting? And it hits.
So am I crazy thinking that positive thinking and energy might be possible? Never in my life would I say something like this until this week. I dont think that I will ever not be superstitious ever again. Even if it doesnt help I know 100% that it can't hurt. I will never be sitting in a game where I am not 100% positive and confident. (Not confident in my ability to beat the game, confident that I am actually going to beat the game. That nothing can stop me, even beats and coolers). I know a buddy of mine who plays $5200 HU SnGs. If he has a losing session, he sits $200 HUs until he logs a positive session. It gets his confidence back and gets him thinking positively.
So from now on I think I am going to perform kind of a positive mentality ritual, just to add one more thing to the equation. Before every session I am going to walk out on my balcony, take a look at the Chicago skyline, take a few deep breaths, and enjoy life for a few moments. If I lose 3-4 buyins at 10/20, i'll drop limits and continue my session. I will continue dropping until I can log a positive 3-4 buy-in session, and then jump back up to the 10/20 game.
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SakiSaki   Sweden. Oct 14 2008 19:00. Posts 9685 | | |
Mentality is crazy huge. I wouldnt say it can change the outcome of the cards but psycologicly it is pretty huge to go into a match expecting to lose and having your prediction come true. It just cements the idea that you are the most unlucky player ever etc and I think that affects every pokerplayers game to some extent.
I remember Taylor Caby saying that he always goes into a poker game expecting good things to happen to him and that is what I try to do. Lord knows its pretty fucking hard sometimes.
Anyways, good luck with recovering, getting through this will make stronger not only as a poker player but as a person aswell. God speed. |
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eightfourO   United States. Oct 14 2008 19:02. Posts 820 | | |
I haven't been playing poker enough to find evidence in my own game, however, being a college baseball player and playing baseball for 17 years, and pitching for 12 of those 17 years, i can say that yes, your mindset that you take into the game does effect the results of your performance. Last year i was a closer in the bullpen, if you're not familiar with baseball, the closer is the pitcher that comes in when the game is on the line in the last inning. I am put into a position where you could be facing their best hitters in the last inning, with your team winning, and it's my job to stop them from scoring. This is the most stressful position on a baseball team. My mindset when i go into any situation is "I am better then them, no one can hit me, I am going to win. I don't know how to lose, i must win".
There have been many episodes in my baseball career where this is evident. I pitched in a national showcase championship, defeating the only team to beat us in the round robin pool play on 3 hours of sleep...(crazy story lol...if u want to hear it tell me and i'll type it out)...I've pitched in city championships and regional championship games...and one i am most proud of is in High School, i beat the #5 team in the state 10-1, i pitched a complete game, 6 innings, with 10 strikeouts...
I LOVE situations where i am not supposed to win, we're the underdog, and i get real firedup for rivalries and championship games.
Basically what i am getting at is as the great Yogi Berra once said..."90% of baseball is half mental"...in other words, baseball (and all sports) take mental focus. If you think you're going to lose, you've already lost. Maybe not so much crazy beliefs...but i believe in rituals, superstitions, and that YOU control most of the winning you do. If you come into a game thinking that you can win, you'll have a lot better chance of winning. Negative thinking will bring down your mentality...
Now, to bring this into a poker kinda deal...
I can't go into a session saying "i'm going to shut these guys down and no one will score runs"...it's kinda hard since i'm playing 5 other people. What i try to do is avoid the players i know are salty, and get into more hands w/ fish. However, i will admit, if i am at a table w/ someone who has an LP avatar, it's automatic get it in quick. Not that LP is bad, i think they are rather good, but i have noticed that anyone with an LP avatar is exactly the same as everyone else. They all play the same game, and i know how to play against them.
My mentality is "i'm the best, i'm going to win, i'm going to make smart decision, i'm going to ignore 'pot commitment' (i am a firm believer that it gets you into more trouble then good for the most part, obv some exceptions), and i'm going to dominant the tables and make 2-4BI's minimum"...There are much more factors that go into poker than baseball, so setting positive goals is better than having a positive attitude, because you're not in control of the cards. Thats where luck/chance/random come into play.
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god give me a freaking green star for that one.
OWNED.
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when i said that i like playing ppl w/ LP avatar, i meant lower stakes. their style of play are exact cookie cutter examples of each other...ez lyfe. |
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failsafe   United States. Oct 14 2008 19:26. Posts 1040 | | |
I was thinking about this today as well. Like yourself, if anyone asked, I'd say I'm the last person in the world to believe in anything supernatural. Like Saki, I've always acknowledged "energy"-related successes to be superstition and the placebo effect. If anyone relates a few stories about successes from positive energy, I usually congratulate them but can't help myself thinking "yes, but you probably have these same superstitions consciously or unconsciously ALL THE TIME, and any time one comes true, you chalk it up to energy and forget the rest. over time, you've accumulated enough successes to think that your superstitions work, but in the end it's just that you win one in a hundred and forgotten the other ninety-nine. "
But, I've seen some stuff over the last year, and experienced it myself. It's made me wonder.
If you don't mind, I'd like to hear how this goes for you. Send a PM or I'll try to catch your blog |
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SakiSaki   Sweden. Oct 14 2008 19:30. Posts 9685 | | |
| On October 14 2008 18:02 eightfourO wrote:
i'm going to ignore 'pot commitment' (i am a firm believer that it gets you into more trouble then good for the most part, obv some exceptions)
god give me a freaking green star for that one.
OWNED.
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eightfourO   United States. Oct 14 2008 19:40. Posts 820 | | |
| On October 14 2008 18:30 SakiSaki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2008 18:02 eightfourO wrote:
i'm going to ignore 'pot commitment' (i am a firm believer that it gets you into more trouble then good for the most part, obv some exceptions)
god give me a freaking green star for that one.
OWNED.
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so u got top set and theres a str8 possibilty and you know he's got a str8 b/c of your reads but you're "pot committed"...so you have to call? no. fold. save you're money. if you know you're beat then you're beat. Pot commitment is just a stupid reason to justify giving up a chunk of money when you know you're about to make a bad call. "well i have a great hand, i am 95% sure i'm beat, but i'm pot commited so i'm just going to forfeit more money"... see what i am getting at?? |
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SakiSaki   Sweden. Oct 14 2008 19:43. Posts 9685 | | |
No I dont see what you are getting at. You have completely missunderstood the term pot commited. |
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what wackass site is this nigga? | |
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asdf2000   United States. Oct 14 2008 19:54. Posts 7695 | | |
The mind creates what it has been conditioned to create -.- |
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eightfourO   United States. Oct 14 2008 20:05. Posts 820 | | |
Ok just to make sure we're on the same page... here's an example of what i'm talking about. I'm not going to lie, going into poker termonology i'm not the most knowlegable...
You have KK in the hole.
Flop
Ah Kd 2s
Opponet does same thing he always does everytime he has suited connectors, and he does that here...lets say he 3 bets, + he's a calling station on turn.
Turn brings
7c
you bet into it 1/2 pot b/c u want him to bait b/c u know he has a draw. he calls
River
Td
So now you've put a big chunk of money into your set and he bets like 3/4 pot...you are about 95% sure he has a str8 and you're beat but you call anyway because of pot commitment? you've already invested a lot into it, and you had the best hand pf, on flop, and on turn...so you justify a call on riv when you think you're beat w/ pot commitment??
am i wrong? |
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SakiSaki   Sweden. Oct 14 2008 20:18. Posts 9685 | | |
Since this discussion really doesnt belong it this blog I will reply via pm. |
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eightfourO   United States. Oct 14 2008 20:38. Posts 820 | | |
back to original discussion of pos/neg energy...
I don't believe that it exist's in poker, i.e. you can't truely believe you're going to hit runner runner and it will happen everytime you do.
but i do believe that if you think you'll play better than the competition that will lead to you making better decisions. Also if you realize that you can only control so much, and not go on tilt b/c of things you can't control, you'll be better.
I highly recommend Mind Gyn by Gary Mack.
Use it as a tool to help you w/ poker. |
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phexac   United States. Oct 14 2008 20:50. Posts 2563 | | |
From my experience playing with you, you can be a huge spewtard...I would look into that before turning to voodoo. |
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Nitting it up since 2006 | Last edit: 14/10/2008 20:50 |
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Babygrand   United States. Oct 15 2008 16:26. Posts 142 | | |
Yea yea. Definitely can be a spewtard. Also can be a huge nit. Also can suxor major.
Results Day 1: 2/2 in cash game sessions. Broke even on tourney session. So far so good. |
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