k2o4   United States. Oct 20 2008 22:53. Posts 4803
(weird, I made a new post and for some reason this one is the only thing showing up...)
WTF - this is getting worse and worse and worse...
A woman canvassing for Obama in Wisconsin was punched in the face by a man ranting about ACORN. The woman was part of a canvassing effort organized by friends of mine. As we were about to go on stage for Oobleck Election Play 2008: The Trojan Candidate, a friend of our lighting designer who was in the same canvassing group called and told her the story.
The silver lining is that when the woman who had been assaulted returned to Chicago, there was already a voicemail message from Barack Obama expressing his sorrow that she had had to go through such an experience.
That's it. McCain supporters are dicks. The usual gang of conservative bigmouths are inciting violence with their propaganda, and the suckers who want desperately to believe are so frustrated with the lack of believability of the propaganda that they're lashing out with violence and violent rhetoric.
Meanwhile, Obama has such a great organization that he heard about this small incident and contacted the victim before the end of the day.
More as the details come out.
Ridiculous shit. McPalin needs to stop lying about things like ACORN and Ayers cause they're inciting people to violence with their BS. ACORN has been getting death threats when they haven't done ANYTHING wrong!!!! The right wing gets absolutely insane when you throw this type of rhetorical red meat at them and McPalin know it, but they do it anyway.
ACORN:
At the same time we have the right wing blowhards like limbaugh saying Powell only endorsed Obama cause he's black... but if that's true how come NO black candidate before Obama was able to get the nomination... hell, before Iowa Hillary was getting the majority of the black vote!
Limbaugh, and Pat Buchanan, too (whom I work with at MSNBC and who I will say is decent even when he's way wrong, so I will cut a little slack), make their "he's one of us" vote claim regarding Powell in particular (blacks in general) in spite of the fact that a person of color has run for the White House in every presidential election over the last 24 years: Jesse Jackson in 1984 and 1988. Gov. Douglas Wilder of Virginia in 1992. Former ambassador and conservative activist Alan Keyes of Maryland in 1996 and 2000. Former Sen. Carol Moseley Braun of Illinois and the Rev. Al Sharpton of New York in 2004.
Plenty of opportunities for Powell and other blacks to willy-nilly support a brother (or a sister).
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Clearly -- more important, factually -- most blacks don't vote for blacks just because they are black.
This should have been evident in the early stages of Obama's campaign, when Sen. Hillary Clinton initially out-polled Obama among blacks, to the surprise of everyone except people of color, who knew going in we weren't a monolithic voting bloc. Should've been evident when blacks and liberals had to ask the inane question: "Is Obama enough?" Even Michelle Obama was reduced to saying that one day black America would "wake up and get it" with regard to voting for her husband based on race.
Beyond the merit of that, or of any of those positions, it does not appear as though black America is handing Obama a "he's one of us" vote.
Rather, the majority of black Americans are giving their votes to the man who, as Powell said, has passed the tests of leadership, particularly over these last seven weeks.
I think the confusion is with the conservatives. Simply because they have a "he's NOT one of us" vote that is applied with a very narrow litmus test -- macaca, uppity, people from non-pro parts of America -- it does not hold true those with a more progressive nature have or use the opposite.
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bane   United States. Oct 20 2008 23:03. Posts 2379
questions
should i be worried if have not received my new voter registration card, i signed up maybe 3 or 4 days before the deadline
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k2o4   United States. Oct 20 2008 23:15. Posts 4803
How'd you sign up? A person with a clipboard? Or did you dl the form online and mail it in? Or did you go to the county clerk?
Either way go to http://www.voteforchange.com/ and type in your info and it should figure out if you're registered or not.
What state are you in? Did you request a Mail in ballot?
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fakeshaver   United States. Oct 20 2008 23:28. Posts 1313
yeah i find it so offensive that Limbaugh is allowed to say stuff like that on air. no one is question kissingers support of mccain because they are both white. i cant believe mccain and his advisors are just willing to tear the country apart like this just to try to win an election. well i can but it is just pathetic. even if he does win half the country will hate him.
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whamm!   Albania. Oct 20 2008 23:34. Posts 11625
. it may not be the best idea, but since it's really what freedom is all about, meh. look at the philippines, roughly only 9% of the population are intelligent enough to actually decide on issues and platform, so elections usually end up in favor of the masses who are tbh, pretty dumb and idiotic and choose popularity 100% of the time. that's primarily the reason why in our country, we have to overthrow governments every now and then lol
well in the U.S. it's really different, people usually at least look at party advocacies and what they stand for, so letting everyone vote may be better for 1st world countries imo.
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capaneo   Canada. Oct 20 2008 23:37. Posts 8465
OMG obama is looking so much older than 2 years ago
In US everyone is happy as long as all the prices are rising. Unless its crude oil - Marc Faber
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k2o4   United States. Oct 20 2008 23:38. Posts 4803
I wouldn't mind a basic "Facts" test at the polls before you were allowed to vote. Like "Is Obama a Muslim?" If you get it wrong you can't vote cause you're a fucking idiot.
It's sad the way the far right is trying to demonize Obama and make his victory seem illegitimate with all this propaganda. Like fake said, it will leave the country splintered and angry and make it harder for us to come together and get things fixed.
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SKoT   United States. Oct 20 2008 23:47. Posts 1768
On October 20 2008 22:38 k2o4 wrote:
I wouldn't mind a basic "Facts" test at the polls before you were allowed to vote. Like "Is Obama a Muslim?" If you get it wrong you can't vote cause you're a fucking idiot.
It's sad the way the far right is trying to demonize Obama and make his victory seem illegitimate with all this propaganda. Like fake said, it will leave the country splintered and angry and make it harder for us to come together and get things fixed.
All over the internet you see the far left demonizing mccain yet ive yet to see any lengthy diatribes about their evil in your blog.
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fakeshaver   United States. Oct 20 2008 23:54. Posts 1313
On October 20 2008 22:47 SKoT wrote:
[QUOTE]On October 20 2008 22:38 k2o4 wrote:
I wouldn't mind a basic "Facts" test at the polls before you were allowed to vote. Like "Is Obama a Muslim?" If you get it wrong you can't vote cause you're a fucking idiot.
It's sad the way the far right is trying to demonize Obama and make his victory seem illegitimate with all this propaganda. Like fake said, it will leave the country splintered and angry and make it harder for us to come together and get things fixed.
All over the internet you see the far left demonizing mccain yet ive yet to see any lengthy diatribes about their evil in your blog.[/QUOTE
did k2 ever say his blog would be unbiased view on the election?
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bane   United States. Oct 21 2008 00:24. Posts 2379
On October 20 2008 22:15 k2o4 wrote:
How'd you sign up? A person with a clipboard? Or did you dl the form online and mail it in? Or did you go to the county clerk?
Either way go to http://www.voteforchange.com/ and type in your info and it should figure out if you're registered or not.
What state are you in? Did you request a Mail in ballot?
yes by person with a clipboard on campus, i went to the site and put my info in it showed me early voting locations so i guess that means registered?
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k2o4   United States. Oct 21 2008 00:31. Posts 4803
Scroll down and click on the link to "Check with your election official to see if you are already registered."
In there it will tell you for sure.
The guy at the campus should have given you a receipt. Take that to the polling place cause if they say ur not registered that will be ur proof and they have to let you vote.
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vegable   United States. Oct 21 2008 00:43. Posts 2453
bitch shouldn't have left the house
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k2o4   United States. Oct 21 2008 01:39. Posts 4803
On October 20 2008 22:38 k2o4 wrote:
I wouldn't mind a basic "Facts" test at the polls before you were allowed to vote. Like "Is Obama a Muslim?" If you get it wrong you can't vote cause you're a fucking idiot.
It's sad the way the far right is trying to demonize Obama and make his victory seem illegitimate with all this propaganda. Like fake said, it will leave the country splintered and angry and make it harder for us to come together and get things fixed.
All over the internet you see the far left demonizing mccain yet ive yet to see any lengthy diatribes about their evil in your blog.
Show me. Seriously, I'm not tryin to be a dick, I'm really curious. I've even started searching drudge to see what the liberals are doing that is out of line and I haven't found anything comparable to the Muslim lies, or the Ayers / Terrorist / ACORN BS. So please link me or just write a list of the specific things that are being done to demonize McCain.
I mean let's take snopes.com as an example as they collect urban legends being spread via email (another way of saying smears). Obama is rated #1 on their list of Urban Legend Categories, while McCain is #8. McCain only has 11 emails about him and 4 are actually true (not urban legends, not smears). On the other hand Obama has 40 with only 4 of them being true.
The false emails about McCain are on topics like "McCain came up with a clever put-down for a student who claimed the older generation can't understand the current one" and "McCain was one upped by a heckler during a campaign stop" and "McCain would not be eligible to draw a pension after serving two terms as president". The only bad one that was proven to be false says "McCain declared during a 60 minutes interview that he was a war criminal who bombed innocent women and children." That is a twist of a quote.
Then when you look at Obama's list it's pretty gross assault on his patriotism and filled with flat out lies:
Obama is a radical muslim who will not recite the pledge of allegiance.
Obama was sworn into office on the Quran
Access to Michelle Obama's senior thesis has been restricted until after the election (cause it has racist comments)
The book of revelations describes the anti christ as someone with characteristics matching those of Obama
Email compares proposed changes in taxes after the 08 election (and lies like crazy saying Obama is going to raise ALL of your taxes on everything)
Obama refused to make his birth certificate available for examination because it contains damaging information about him (amongst other stuff with the theme that he isn't a citizen)
Obama blew off US soldiers during a july 2008 trip to afghanistan.
3 former fannie mae executives are linked to the obama campaign as chief economic advisors
There's more in there which are half truths, like the Ayers shit that stretches the thin relationship they have to insinuate that Obama is close with terrorists. And that's just the emails which doesn't include the things Palin and McCain said from the stump, the mailers or the robo calls. They've used all those methods to say that Obama pals around with terrorists and that ACORN is committing voter fraud of epic proportions that destroy the fabric of our democracy.
That's pretty much the consistent theme I've seen - there's a few very weak, minor smears against Mccain which barely get any attention, and there is an ocean of disgusting smears about Obama which McPalin are trying to make front page news. But I'm totally open to being proven wrong =)
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fakeshaver   United States. Oct 21 2008 03:13. Posts 1313
omg k2, have u ever had one of those days where u are watching fox news and its tilting u so hard but u cant change the channel? I dont know what to do
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k2o4   United States. Oct 21 2008 12:14. Posts 4803
On October 21 2008 02:13 fakeshaver wrote:
omg k2, have u ever had one of those days where u are watching fox news and its tilting u so hard but u cant change the channel? I dont know what to do
rofl I know man - I usually get stuck on oreilly =)