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k2o4   United States. Oct 21 2008 14:35. Posts 4803 | | |
I've had a couple people bitch about how I don't cover both sides of the story, that when I complain about shit the GOP / Right Wing do, there are equal crimes being committed by the DNC / Left Wing which I don't bother to mention. SkoT made that point in the comments to my last blog post and I replied asking him to give me some examples. I also wanna ask anyone else who's willing to take the time to join SkoT in educating me. Here's the original post:
| On October 20 2008 22:47 SKoT wrote:
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On October 20 2008 22:38 k2o4 wrote:
I wouldn't mind a basic "Facts" test at the polls before you were allowed to vote. Like "Is Obama a Muslim?" If you get it wrong you can't vote cause you're a fucking idiot.
It's sad the way the far right is trying to demonize Obama and make his victory seem illegitimate with all this propaganda. Like fake said, it will leave the country splintered and angry and make it harder for us to come together and get things fixed. |
All over the internet you see the far left demonizing mccain yet ive yet to see any lengthy diatribes about their evil in your blog.
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Show me. Seriously, I'm not tryin to be a dick, I'm really curious. I've even started searching drudge to see what the liberals are doing that is out of line and I haven't found anything comparable to the Muslim lies, or the Ayers / Terrorist / ACORN BS. So please link me or just write a list of the specific things that are being done to demonize McCain.
I mean let's take snopes.com as an example as they collect urban legends being spread via email (another way of saying smears). Obama is rated #1 on their list of Urban Legend Categories, while McCain is #8. McCain only has 11 emails about him and 4 are actually true (not urban legends, not smears). On the other hand Obama has 40 with only 4 of them being true.
The false emails about McCain are on topics like "McCain came up with a clever put-down for a student who claimed the older generation can't understand the current one" and "McCain was one upped by a heckler during a campaign stop" and "McCain would not be eligible to draw a pension after serving two terms as president". The only bad one that was proven to be false says "McCain declared during a 60 minutes interview that he was a war criminal who bombed innocent women and children." That is a twist of a quote.
Then when you look at Obama's list it's pretty gross assault on his patriotism and filled with flat out lies:
Lies about Obama:
| Obama is a radical muslim who will not recite the pledge of allegiance.
Obama was sworn into office on the Quran
Access to Michelle Obama's senior thesis has been restricted until after the election (cause it has racist comments)
The book of revelations describes the anti christ as someone with characteristics matching those of Obama
Email compares proposed changes in taxes after the 08 election (and lies like crazy saying Obama is going to raise ALL of your taxes on everything)
Obama refused to make his birth certificate available for examination because it contains damaging information about him (amongst other stuff with the theme that he isn't a citizen)
Obama blew off US soldiers during a july 2008 trip to afghanistan.
3 former fannie mae executives are linked to the obama campaign as chief economic advisors |
There's more in there which are half truths, like the Ayers shit that stretches the thin relationship they have to insinuate that Obama is close with terrorists. And that's just the emails which doesn't include the things Palin and McCain said from the stump, the mailers or the robo calls. They've used all those methods to say that Obama pals around with terrorists and that ACORN is committing voter fraud of epic proportions that destroy the fabric of our democracy.
That's pretty much the consistent theme I've seen - there's a few very weak, minor smears against Mccain which barely get any attention, and there is an ocean of disgusting smears about Obama which McPalin are trying to make front page news. But I'm totally open to being proven wrong =)
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hawking   United States. Oct 21 2008 15:07. Posts 348 | | |
Definitely agree with that. I work in a red state with 100% republican employee's (minus 1 or 2), and they all say the same bullshit. "Oh there are plenty of counter-negative obama ad's/information/rhetoric" etc etc. And I say the same shit, "like what?" Then they get all defensive thinking im challenging them, when I am, but not to be an ass. |
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k2o4   United States. Oct 21 2008 16:03. Posts 4803 | | |
| On October 21 2008 13:47 GirlsRVicious wrote:
obama sucks |
No, you suck
I guess this type of reply just reinforces my point eh?
| On October 21 2008 14:07 hawking wrote:
Definitely agree with that. I work in a red state with 100% republican employee's (minus 1 or 2), and they all say the same bullshit. "Oh there are plenty of counter-negative obama ad's/information/rhetoric" etc etc. And I say the same shit, "like what?" Then they get all defensive thinking im challenging them, when I am, but not to be an ass. |
I'm truly honestly curious to hear what the other side is but as girlsrvicious shows, it's hard to get anything intelligent out of the other side T_T |
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Breeze   Bulgaria. Oct 21 2008 16:21. Posts 802 | | |
k2o4 I think you slowly make people hate Obama because of all the semihomo boundless love you display about him in like 5 blogs a day and replying to every single comment about him in every thread it just slowly gets annoying I think, that's not how you make people like your ideas... that's actually a hint not hate <3 I don't even follow this very closely but that's my impression |
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k2o4   United States. Oct 21 2008 16:23. Posts 4803 | | |
I'd say it's like uber homo and if you think it's semi then I've failed at life.
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And yeah it's going to be pretty much nonstop blogging for 2 more weeks, sorry, can't help it, if I don't vent then I will explode. I'm reading a million stories a day and then going out and volunteering and there's just too much in my head. I can't wait for this election to be over but until then I know I'm gonna blog excessively. |
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Hjorturkall   Iceland. Oct 21 2008 17:32. Posts 483 | | |
Are you getting paid for your constant advertisements or are you simply an avid fan of Obama?
just out of curiosity |
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eightfourO   United States. Oct 21 2008 17:33. Posts 820 | | |
I'm at work so i can't make a huge drawn out post but obama has threatend to sue major boradcasting companies (like Fox) if they use his middle name (hussein). Also, the democratic party will drive and pick up homeless people, take them to the polls, and pay them to vote for the dem. nominee. Plus on the news the other night they reported that the democratic party tried to register the Dallas Cowboys roster in california to get more votes... |
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Hjorturkall   Iceland. Oct 21 2008 17:33. Posts 483 | | |
| On October 21 2008 13:47 GirlsRVicious wrote:
obama sucks |
and sigh...you are a giddy goat... |
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Pulda   Czech Republic. Oct 21 2008 17:45. Posts 446 | | |
| On October 21 2008 16:33 eightfourO wrote:
I'm at work so i can't make a huge drawn out post but obama has threatend to sue major boradcasting companies (like Fox) if they use his middle name (hussein). Also, the democratic party will drive and pick up homeless people, take them to the polls, and pay them to vote for the dem. nominee. Plus on the news the other night they reported that the democratic party tried to register the Dallas Cowboys roster in california to get more votes... |
I have no idea whether that's true or not, but you should mention the sources when posting something like this. |
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keep blogging , it s very interesting
i watch today the kkk strategy ..pretty insane move but they are not that many like in 1920 ( 4 millions members was reported in the documentary) ..
i study law and we had to compare different constitution like the constitution of the United States of America, the fundamental law ni germany , french, etc..
had a headache with your subsequent amendments . judicial system and "jurisprudence" was more my cup of tea...
i really think that the future of the world is in this coming election .. |
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fakeshaver   United States. Oct 21 2008 18:45. Posts 1313 | | |
yeah dont listen to haters k2 keep it up. and "Plus on the news the other night they reported that the democratic party tried to register the Dallas Cowboys roster in california to get more votes..." what......? they tried to register people to a state they will easily carry? are you watching fox news eightfour? |
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k2o4   United States. Oct 21 2008 18:52. Posts 4803 | | |
| On October 21 2008 16:32 Hjorturkall wrote:
Are you getting paid for your constant advertisements or are you simply an avid fan of Obama?
just out of curiosity |
God I wish I got paid - I have to find time to do this amongst working and volunteering at the campaign (ie knocking on doors). And I'm getting a lot less work done these days, hehe.
| On October 21 2008 16:33 eightfourO wrote:
I'm at work so i can't make a huge drawn out post but obama has threatend to sue major boradcasting companies (like Fox) if they use his middle name (hussein). Also, the democratic party will drive and pick up homeless people, take them to the polls, and pay them to vote for the dem. nominee. Plus on the news the other night they reported that the democratic party tried to register the Dallas Cowboys roster in california to get more votes... |
I know you're at work so you don't have time to source everything, but please source it when you get home. I'll keep checking this thread for your reply. But my initial reaction is that I think you're wrong on all those and are just misinformed or mixing things up. I'll go point by point:
1) "obama has threatend to sue major boradcasting companies (like Fox) if they use his middle name (hussein)"
- I haven't heard that. I heard he try to shut down an advertisement that was extremely false being run by the NRA. More info here. He DID file a lawsuit against the Michigan GOP to stop them from disenfranchising voters (they were trying to stop people from voting if their house was foreclosed on). But I never heard anything like what you said.
2) "Also, the democratic party will drive and pick up homeless people, take them to the polls, and pay them to vote for the dem. nominee."
- I've NEVER heard of that and it sounds a lot more like a conspiracy theory, but again, gimme a source to check out on it.
3) "Plus on the news the other night they reported that the democratic party tried to register the Dallas Cowboys roster in california to get more votes"
- Huh? Explain this further please. My main guess is that you are alluding to the ACORN stuff. The deal with that is ACORN is a group who does voter registration. They hire people to register voters. The people they hire are sometimes lazy and since they get paid by the # of people they register, they fill in fake forms. So they will do stuff like say "Mickey Mouse" or use names from sports teams. Then they return the forms to ACORN. Now, at this point ACORN reviews the forms and any forms that look false (ie a mickey mouse form) are flagged. Legally they MUST turn all the forms in to the elections board EVEN IF THEY THINK A FORM IS A FAKE. So ACORN makes sure to put a note on every potential fake form saying "check this closely we think it's a fake" and then they turn everything in. McCain and Company are trying to spin that and say it's massive voter fraud and it is ruining the fabric of our society. Total BS.
So when you get home please try and find sources to back up what you wrote, but I think you've got some confused information there. |
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eightfourO   United States. Oct 21 2008 18:55. Posts 820 | | |
| On October 21 2008 17:45 fakeshaver wrote:
yeah dont listen to haters k2 keep it up. and "Plus on the news the other night they reported that the democratic party tried to register the Dallas Cowboys roster in california to get more votes..." what......? they tried to register people to a state they will easily carry? are you watching fox news eightfour? |
actually ESPN...
and all this is stuff i heard at school
liberal arts school...
i also heard of dead people registering to vote dem as well.. |
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fakeshaver   United States. Oct 21 2008 19:21. Posts 1313 | | |
dead people are very pro mccain so that doesnt make sense |
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k2o4   United States. Oct 21 2008 19:27. Posts 4803 | | |
| On October 21 2008 18:21 fakeshaver wrote:
dead people are very pro mccain so that doesnt make sense |
hahahahahah
wow that had me rolling =)
Ok so your source is kids at school saying crazy stuff - not the best source ^^ It sounds to me like your schoolmates got their info mixed up and exaggerated. As far as dead people voting Dem, I think there has been voter fraud in the past on both sides with that type of thing happening, but I haven't heard anything like that going on this election season so far. |
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I'm pro McCain due to your 573 blogs a day about the same damn thing. I honestly think that same old John and socialist Barack are neither one good for our country and we're fucked either way |
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Also I like my guns and have you ever seen one just like be so perfect to the point they almost make me cautious. I get that feeling with Obama I have no factual bullshit. I just have gut feelings which is something I've learned to listen to while playing poker. |
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k2o4   United States. Oct 21 2008 19:40. Posts 4803 | | |
| On October 21 2008 18:32 GirlsRVicious wrote:
I'm pro McCain due to your 573 blogs a day about the same damn thing. I honestly think that same old John and socialist Barack are neither one good for our country and we're fucked either way |
You do realize that Obama isn't a socialist right? And that everytime you call him that REAL socialists get insulted?
| John Bachtell, the Illinois organizer for Communist Party USA, sees attempts by Sen. John McCain's campaign to label Obama a socialist as both offensive to socialists and a desperate ploy to tap into fears of voters who haven't forgotten their Cold War rhetoric. |
And to be against a candidate because I am enthusiastic about him is weird, but that's your choice. You do realize that if my blog annoys you, you DO NOT have to read it. |
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fakeshaver   United States. Oct 21 2008 20:26. Posts 1313 | | |
k2 dont worry. hes jsut bull shitting about voting for mccain because of you. no way would a rational person change there vote based on someone blogging too much lol. also eight4 check your facts before you post stuff please. you didnt even get the right state that the cowboys were registered to vote in by ACORN, it was nevada. also i took that line from bill maher i think k2. real good show, you should watch it if you do not. it is on hbo on fridays at 11 pm. |
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