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remember87   Sweden. Nov 01 2008 12:53. Posts 521
I played a hand that became somewhat interesting.

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/558808


First of all:
How would you have played it on the flop? Fold, raise, call-call or call-fold and why? Does the fact that the blinds may have a big hand effect the decision?

Secondly:
If I decide to push on the flop, how do I calculate my equity? How does the fact that oyvind has a hand effect the math?
Can I say: if either of the blinds have this range he will call and my equity will then be this. Is that even interesting? If not, how shall I do the math? How I calculate it is very interesting because it will effect my decision on the flop.

I am very thankful for input on this!

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SpasticInk   Sweden. Nov 01 2008 13:22. Posts 6298

I can't give you much input on this, but as a general rule, I think it's criminal to fold this flop multiway since you called preflop, this is one of the flop you are looking to play. with a flushdraw and a gutter I a) don't see a problem pushing her if villain (Amarillos Risk) is capable of making big folds like AK/AA - which are certainly in his range given he bets into 4 people here). with another caller in between, i think option b) calling is superior. If you hit your diamond, or gutter, you can play this profitable in position. there is certainly a chance someone has a higher fd, but there are also a lot of other cardcombinations as well (QJ, KQ/KJ/KT).

it's pretty hard to make good ev calculations here since there are so many players to take into account, their tendencies and different ranges and so on. but there is ton of dead money in the pot (120) and you are pretty much getting almost direct odds of calling


shipbr   . Nov 01 2008 13:26. Posts 140


  On November 01 2008 11:53 remember87 wrote:
I played a hand that became somewhat interesting.

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/558808


First of all:
How would you have played it on the flop? Fold, raise, call-call or call-fold and why? Does the fact that the blinds may have a big hand affect the decision?

Secondly:
If I decide to push on the flop, how do I calculate my equity? How does the fact that oyvind has a hand affect the math?
Can I say: if either of the blinds have this range he will call and my equity will then be this. Is that even interesting? If not, how shall I do the math? How I calculate it is very interesting because it will affect my decision on the flop.

I am very thankful for input on this!

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DustySwedeDude   Sweden. Nov 01 2008 13:35. Posts 8623

Shove and hope to get rid of higher draws or get it in vs 2 made hands? Don't fold at least.


pinbaLL    Sweden. Nov 01 2008 14:36. Posts 7243

easy push


 



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