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RainyDay   Korea (South). Jan 13 2009 14:29. Posts 484


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Silver_nz   New Zealand. Jan 13 2009 15:18. Posts 5647

1 nobody ever folds to river raises , see DC unconventional wisdom series

2 lol its teh same

3 without history i think when you 3bet the utg raiser and get 4bet w AK its pitchin time. I would almost always flatcall w AK just because without history you are only often folding out everything you dominate. even oop would flat, then make some plays on good flops when missed. depends on how loose his utg raising range is and if he is a mega station to 3bets obv. att to steal, + pfr + fold to pf 3bet are good stats. eh, i dunno, this might be too nitty, maybe i have been playing too much FR.

4 not a huge fan of the 3bet with an easily dominated hand, but obv cooler after that

5 lol poker

6 fold preflop.you know any toppair you make is going to be crushed most of the time if you get it in, and you don't have pot odds to draw to 2pair or w/e on the flop

7 lol -_- wp

8 problems start from preflop. suited connectors out of position with no initiative ... flop peel is probably going to be -EV as well becasue you have to play guessing games multiway most of the time. have a plan for the hand!

9 yeah, he probably doesn't think you are bluffing. unless he is an aggro player its probably a fold. pretty close thou, getting it in can't be terrible.

10 I think thats fine to do once in a while in position wars

11 I think leading the flop 16 might make this easier to play. as played i think folding the turn is a real good idea after that nit landerD calls 8D

12 "when raised on the turn with a onepair type hand you are behind 90% of the time vs 90% of opponents"


k2o4   United States. Jan 13 2009 15:34. Posts 4803

ok here's my half ass comments:

1) Bleh I hate the raise on river in hand #1. Yeah he seems weak but he also seems like a fish and I just wouldn't expect to get him off of top pair. I'd probably fold to the flop CR.

2) is same as hand #1

3) this is all player and image dependent.

4) fine, cooler

5) fine, cooler

6) Shitty - hard to fold pre for the odds, hard to fold flop, and once you call flop it's really hard to fold turn but vs specks I really don't think you're ever winning on the turn so you gotta fold. probably should just fold pre since you're not suited. also, his flop bet size is scary imo. That leans to a possible flop fold cause I don't see him cbetting that board as a bluff too often.

7) what a meh hand. I dunno how high your FE is, doesn't seem good to me, but it sucks to draw for that price.

8) I dunno - what sux about your line is that when you do get called on the turn you're so often dominated. but you're basically in a shity spot where you're kinda stuck going broke. not sure how to play this to avoid going broke. I dunno, I'd probably lean towards pot control rather than going for stacks since there's not much that calls you that you beat. Bigger sixes, boats and a str8 are your big callers. You are probably hoping to milk something out of some PP's and like A3.

9) need a good read to stack off here imo - cold 4bet is scary.

10) again player dependent needs history/stats/image and all that to say anything.

11) why are you jamming turn with lander in the middle and the board paired? spewwwwww imo

12) need a read to get it in on the turn imo. even then it's gonna be meh.

InnovativeYogis.comLast edit: 13/01/2009 15:42

palak   United States. Jan 24 2009 11:07. Posts 4601

1. wtf ur UTG+1 don't raise JTo pre there, as played just call river you rep NOTHING when you call turn and shove river.

3. standard

4. standard

5. standard

6. calling a 3bet with KQ w/o a read is absolutly horrible, speck is a giant nit to boot so very easy fold pre. But since you didn't you can't fold now that you hit your hand in a 3bet pot.

7. really? 34s is good enough to raise UTG? Be more positionally aware. You can fold flop, you have 12 outs most of the time but your actually not getting the odds to shove that when he overbets so much

8. cooler

9. cooler

10. you were on tilt (i hope) cuz that hand is horrible w/o a read actually just horrible in general

11. fold pre you will be OOP post with a sc which is like impossible play very well. Lead flop 100% as played turn is a very easy fold

12. player dependent.
11.

dont tap the glass...im about ready to take a fucking hammer to the aquarium 

 



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